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Besides adding complementary flavors

by Pathik Mon May 19, 2008 11:07 pm

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Besides adding complementary flavors to many foods, hot sauces stimulate the release of endorphins in the brain, just as exercise does, and these have a pain-relieving effect like morphine's.

A
(B) hot sauces stimulate the release of endorphins in the brain, like exercise, and they have a pain-relieving effect that is like morphine.
(C) hot sauces and exercise both stimulate the release of endorphins in the brain, and they have a pain-relieving effect like morphine.
(D) the release of endorphins in teh brain is stimulated both by hot sauces and exerciese, and they ahve a pain-relieving effect like morphine's.
(E) the release of endorphins in the brain is stimulated by hot sauces, just as with exercise, and these have a pain-relieving effect like that of morphine.


Could someone explain the how "like excercise" is used in B. I thought "just as excercise does" in A is better than B?

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by nikunj_returns Tue May 20, 2008 5:11 am

The answer is A right? you are right- "like" is used incorrectly in B.

Can you elaborate your question?
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by dhoomketu Tue May 20, 2008 12:45 pm

I think use of like is fine here. Option A has problem with "and these have a pain-relieving effect like morphine's." Instead of morphine's it should be morphine.
Option B is better than A
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by Guest Tue May 20, 2008 2:34 pm

I think the answer A.

Choice A uses the right comparison between the stimulation that hot sauce produces and the stimulation that exercise produces. Also, the apostrophe is correct to show the comparison between the effect from endorphine and morphine.

Choice B is wrong because of the way in which "like" is used in the sentence. Like should only be used to compare nouns. Therefore, exercise cannot be compared to the stimulation that hot sauce produces. Also, "that" does not have a clear referent.

Choice C is wrong because the modifier at the beginning of the sentence modifies hot sauce and exercise. This is incorrect because only hot sauce should be modified by the modifier.

Choice D is wrong dangling modifier problem.

Choice E is wrong because of dangling modifier problem.
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by RonPurewal Sun May 25, 2008 11:23 pm

if this is really a gmatprep problem, i would suggest that you check the original for transcription errors, as all 5 of these choices are simply wrong.

to wit:
(a)
* poor parallelism. (a correct gmat choice would almost always include much closer parallelism, such as ...they do blah blah blah, like exercise, and they do blah blah blah, like morphine)
* can't use 'these' as a standalone pronoun. (this/that/these/those are only acceptable as adjectives - these people, that hypothesis, etc. - or as part of parallel constructions - the symphonies of beethoven vs. those of bach, etc.)

(b)
faulty comparison (a pain-relieving effect is compared directly to morphine, rather than to the pain-relieving effect of morphine as obviously intended)

(c), (d), (e) as explained by the guest poster above me.


[editor: apparently this problem is legitimate. it's one of the worst official problems i've seen ... but we have to learn from it]
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by Guest Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:22 pm

RPurewal Wrote:if this is really a gmatprep problem, i would suggest that you check the original for transcription errors, as all 5 of these choices are simply wrong.

to wit:
(a)
* poor parallelism. (a correct gmat choice would almost always include much closer parallelism, such as ...they do blah blah blah, like exercise, and they do blah blah blah, like morphine)
* can't use 'these' as a standalone pronoun. (this/that/these/those are only acceptable as adjectives - these people, that hypothesis, etc. - or as part of parallel constructions - the symphonies of beethoven vs. those of bach, etc.)

(b)
faulty comparison (a pain-relieving effect is compared directly to morphine, rather than to the pain-relieving effect of morphine as obviously intended)

(c), (d), (e) as explained by the guest poster above me.


Hi Ron,

Besides adding complementary flavors to many foods, hot sauces stimulate the release of endorphins in the brain, just as exercise does, and these have a pain-relieving effect like morphine's.

(B) hot sauces stimulate the release of endorphins in the brain, like exercise, and they have a pain-relieving effect that is like morphine.

In B... is the position of Like correct - As in..shouldn't it touch the noun it is modifying ..

i used this to eliminate B...is my reasoning correct ??
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by Aj Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:56 am

Guess the answer is B,


"Hot souces" (n) is compared to "Excercise"(n) using "Like", which seems to be valid. and also in option A we are not sure if "these" refers to hot souces or to excercise.


Can we know the OA?
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by H Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:55 pm

B can't be right because it is saying, "the pain-effect [produced by hot sauces] is like morphine".

I got the same question from GMATPrep; so I think that the post is correct.

However, 'these' in A is kind of strange to me.

The OA is A.
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by Guest Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:01 am

Convnced! and I guess "these" refers to endorphins
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by StaceyKoprince Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:08 pm

we're happy to help!
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by Guest Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:38 pm

H Wrote:B can't be right because it is saying, "the pain-effect [produced by hot sauces] is like morphine".

I got the same question from GMATPrep; so I think that the post is correct.

However, 'these' in A is kind of strange to me.

The OA is A.


Can the tutor help to explain how these is correct here?
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by JonathanSchneider Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:12 am

I'll second Ron's earlier concern that the word "these" cannot stand alone. I think the original poster must have mis-typed this question into the forum. We need some noun, even if it is just a referent synonym, after the word "these."
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by Guest Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:24 am

I checked the original information, the post is right.
Original info as below as posted:

Besides adding complementary flavors to many foods, hot sauces stimulate the release of endorphins in the brain, just as exercise does, and these have a pain-relieving effect like morphine's.
(A) hot sauces stimulate the release of endorphins in the brain, just as exercise does, and these have a pain-relieving effect like morphine's
(B) hot sauces stimulate the release of endorphins in the brain, like exercise, and they have a pain-relieving effect that is like morphine
(C) hot sauces and exercise both stimulate the release of endorphins in the brain, and they have a pain-relieving effect like morphine
(D) the release of endorphins in the brain is stimulated both by hot sauces and exercise, and they have a pain-relieving effect like morphine's
(E) the release of endorphins in the brain is stimulated by hot sauces, just as with exercise, and these have a pain-relieving effect like that of morphine

the OA is A,but "these" in A is strange....
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by StaceyKoprince Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:43 am

Question: did you guys check this from your own GMATPrep software? Or did you find it posted somewhere else and attributed to GMATPrep? Just want to make sure...
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by RonPurewal Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:19 am

skoprince Wrote:Question: did you guys check this from your own GMATPrep software? Or did you find it posted somewhere else and attributed to GMATPrep? Just want to make sure...


y'know what, i've actually seen this one firsthand. much to my chagrin, it's legitimate.

i'm still seething at the use of "these" as a standalone pronoun. this is one of the worst sentences i've ever seen.