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Re: Although it claims to delve into political issues,

by sureng.reddy Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:15 pm

As stacey mentioned i selected wrong choice by thinking that this question deals with as vs suchas :)

After reading some of the explanations i looked into the MGMAT book to understand more on the concepts tested in this question. On why 'each' has to be singular pls.refer page#41 ( Topic: Each and Every: Singular Sensations) in MGMAT Sentence correction book.
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Re: Although it claims to delve into political issues,

by tim Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:59 pm

glad to hear it..
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Re: Although it claims to delve into political issues,

by bankomat Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:35 pm

such as used when we introduce examples.
Apparently E is the right variant
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Re: Although it claims to delve into political issues,

by tim Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:36 pm

indeed..
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by er_anirudh Sat Aug 31, 2013 3:15 pm

RonPurewal Wrote:
H Wrote:each of the three major networks - singular
the three major networks each - plural

examples:
each of the students - singular
the students each - plural

generic pattern:
each (of the/pronoun/any determiner) [noun] - singular
[noun] each - plural

please correct me if I am wrong.

thanks.


you are not wrong.


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bumping into an old thread...

I have one confusion here !!!

As in the below sentences -

one of the many factors that determines --wrong
one of the many factors that determine --correct

but when we used "Each" its different. Why?

Pls Elaborate.
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Re: Although it claims to delve into political issues,

by thanghnvn Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:31 pm

RonPurewal Wrote:
shobujgmat Wrote:i don't know many things about the construction of the correct answer choice E
specialy "as when".

Pls shed some light on this issue


here, "as" is being used to introduce an example.

normally, this is the domain of "such as", but i THINK that "such as" is actually restricted to nouns and to things that can function as nouns (such as gerunds and noun phrases).

since the example introduced here is a clause, not a noun, you use "as".


Ron, I have the following idea, please, confirm it is right or not

E means

television can be superficial as television can be superficial when the three networks each broadcast...

so, it is the matter of ellipsis.

whenever we see preposition touch conjunction, think of ellipsis. because there is grammar structure in which preposition can touch conjunction.

is my thinking correct , Ron. I search all over the internet and find no reply for this phrase. I rely on only you, Ron.
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Re: Although it claims to delve into political issues,

by thanghnvn Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:02 am

sorry, I write wrongly

there is no grammar structure, in which a preposition can touch a conjunction.

so, whenever we see a preposition touch another preposition or a conjunction, think a bout ellipsis.
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Re: Although it claims to delve into political issues,

by RonPurewal Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:52 am

thanghnvn Wrote:sorry, I write wrongly

there is no grammar structure, in which a preposition can touch a conjunction.

so, whenever we see a preposition touch another preposition or a conjunction, think a bout ellipsis.


Every time you post, I have to go to Google and find out what all these grammar terms mean.
(:

But, no, this can happen.
I've lived in California and in Florida.
--> Why would that be wrong? (According to what google tells me, "and" is a conjunction, and "in" is a preposition.)

The primary effect of using all these grammar terms is unnecessary complication. You should try to stop sticking labels on everything you see -- you'll probably discover that things are a lot easier that way.
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Re: Although it claims to delve into political issues,

by thanghnvn Sat Mar 22, 2014 4:25 am

[quote="haj"]Although it claims to delve into political issues, television can be superficial such as when each of the three major networks broadcast exactly the same statement from a political candidate.
(A) superficial such as when each of the three major networks
(B) superficial, as can sometimes occur if all of the three major networks
(C) superficial if the three major networks all
(D) superficial whenever each of the three major networks
(E) superficial, as when the three major networks each

I agree E is best but I want to learn from the oa, E.

Can I write E "...superficial, when the three...". I omit "as" from choice E.
this omitting is correct or not.
this omitting makes a different meaning or not

I never see "as when" in grammar book. please, explain this phrase. how to use it?
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Re: Although it claims to delve into political issues,

by RonPurewal Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:17 pm

If "as" is removed, then you're citing only this one precise situation as the reason why TV can be superficial.
In this context, it's clear that this example is intended to be just one of many.
Incidentally, this issue is sufficient to justify elimination of choices C and D.
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Re: Although it claims to delve into political issues,

by RonPurewal Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:23 pm

thanghnvn Wrote:I never see "as when" in grammar book. please, explain this phrase. how to use it?


A bit of unsolicited advice: You'd be best served by spending less time reading grammar books, and more time reading normal, well-written professional English (of the sort found in, say, top newspapers or business journals).
You post this phrase often ("not found in grammar book"), and, basically every time, it's in reference to a phrase that's extremely common in written English.

You can put "as" in front of prep + noun if you're citing prep + noun as a situation in which something occurs, or is found, or whatever.
E.g.,
In football, athletes do not have to run continuously for up to 45 minutes as in soccer; in fact, they never have to run for more than about ten seconds at a time.
On the GMAT, as on most standardized tests, there is no partial credit for incorrect answers.
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Re: Although it claims to delve into political issues,

by thanghnvn Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:52 am

[quote="haj"]Although it claims to delve into political issues, television can be superficial such as when each of the three major networks broadcast exactly the same statement from a political candidate.
(A) superficial such as when each of the three major networks
(B) superficial, as can sometimes occur if all of the three major networks
(C) superficial if the three major networks all
(D) superficial whenever each of the three major networks
(E) superficial, as when the three major networks each

Source: GMAT Prep

I wish to come back to this problem because the ellipsis is tested here but is not dicussed much. consider B and E.

B means
tive can be superficial as tivi can be occur
the subject of the second elliptical clause must be the subject of the first clause. IS THAT RIGHT? this is main problem of B
SO, this is not logic

E means
tive can be superficial as tivi can be superficail when the three major networks each broadcast the same thing
so , this is logic and correct.

is my thinking correct?
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Re: Although it claims to delve into political issues,

by RonPurewal Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:42 pm

I'm sorry, but I don't understand almost anything in your post.
"Tivi", "tive", "elliptical clause", etc."”I have no idea what any of these things are.

You can eliminate B because it is redundant. In fact, the same idea is expressed three times: "can" + "can" + "sometimes".
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Re: Although it claims to delve into political issues,

by thanghnvn Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:03 am

E means
tivi can be superficial as tivi can be superficail when the three major networks each broadcast the same thing

so , this is logic and correct.

please , read above lines, which I corrected
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Re: Although it claims to delve into political issues,

by tim Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:14 am

It looks like you mean to use "tivi" as some sort of abbreviation of "television", and I assume "tive" is just a misspelling of that abbreviation. This was not at all clear from your earlier post and "tivi" is not by any means a standard abbreviation. Please take care to express yourself clearly on our forums, as failure to do so will make it much more difficult for us to help you. I notice that you didn't ask a question in your most recent post, so I assume there is nothing else we need to address here.
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