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Q16

by andrewgong01 Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:10 am

My prephase : Prudential Outcomes since Passage A went against it and that seems to be the only stance we have of the author

A: Scope; passage does not deal with the grey area of partial candor
B: Public debate is out of scope and was not mentioned in either passage (or if it was mentioned in 1 it was not mentioned in the other so it is still wrong)
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D:Scope; we are not talking about individuals. That said, Passage A did bring up morality and individuals telling lies but B does not and hence it is out of scope for B
E: Easy task to weight the cost and benefit seems out of scope. Passage A does not talk about it. Passage B does talk about it but it never said it was a "relatively easy task"

This leaves us with C but I do not know why C is correct outside of process of elimination
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Re: Q16

by ohthatpatrick Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:07 pm

I won't rehash all the stuff said in Q20's thread, but both passages address the question of, "Should judges be candid in their reasoning?"

Psg A - Yes (lines 21-24), "judges should not lie or deliberately mislead in their opinions".

Psg B - Usually yes (last line), "there should be a strong presumption in favor of candor."

Psg B leaves some daylight, though, for exceptions. After making her 2nd paragraph's case in favor of candor, she says in her 3rd paragraph "Have I just demonstrated an UNSHAKABLE obligation? Probably not."

She implies that "judicial deception MAY sometimes be warranted in cases where it yields some net benefit".

Psg A would endorse (C), since she is saying we should be defending judicial candor on the basis of moral considerations, regardless of whether they produce good outcomes.

Psg B meanwhile, mainly justified judicial candor based on the bad outcomes we would have if we lost it (less able to constrain judges / to criticize them / to condemn them ... and public cynicism would increase).

Psg B is justifying the presumption in favor of judicial candor on the basis of its good outcomes (judicial accountability and public trust), and it's also justfying possible exceptions to judicial candor on the basis of good outcomes "when it yields some net benefit")

tl;dr version
Psg A - judicial candor is always required, regardless of whether it leads to good outcomes

Psg B - we should heavily lean towards judicial candor, since not having it would lead to bad outcomes, but it's possible there are times where we would make an exception and allow judicial deception if it produced an important net gain.
 
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Re: Q16

by EmanuelC479 Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:12 pm

Hey, I was just wondering how A was not the correct answer here?
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Re: Q16

by ohthatpatrick Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:57 pm

The reason stated in the original post was a good one:
neither author addressed "partial candor" .. the idea that you believe some of what you're saying / but some of it is fake.

For (A) to be correct each author would have had to address this issue, and one of them would be saying "Believing only part of what you're saying violates judicial candor" and other one would be saying "Believing only part of what you're saying still qualifies as judicial candor"