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by luckyzrjz Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:29 pm

I got stuck between (C) and (D). Can someone help to clarify that why choice (D) is wrong?
 
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Re: Q10

by farhadshekib Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:50 pm

luckyzrjz Wrote:I got stuck between (C) and (D). Can someone help to clarify that why choice (D) is wrong?


Here is the support I see for choice (C).

Line 4-5: even the most prominent art specialist can be tricked by a gifted artist turned forger into mistaking an almost perfect forgery for an original.

Lines 9-10: For example, Meegeren painted under the alias of Jam Vermeer, which was adored by critics as one of Vermeer's finest works... until they discovered it was fake.

Lines 14-15: Astonishingly, there was at least one highly reputed critic who persisted in believing it to be a Vermeer even after Van Meegeren suggested other wise.

(C) presents an analogous scenario: diners at a famous restaurant praise the food as amazing until they learn that the master chef is away for the night.

In both cases, two groups of people (i.e. critics and diners) initially praise one thing, but upon learning that the things is not original (i.e. fake painting and food not cooked by master chef), they retract their praise.

I believe what makes (D) wrong is that the critics stop applauding a new novel because they dislike the latent political messages contained in the novel.

However, we have no indication that our critics disliked anything about the painting; in fact, the passage suggests that the critics considered it "one of Vermeer's finest work".

Either way, (C) is the best choice.

(A) does not tell us if the lovers of the musical group believed, at first, that the imitations were real...

(B) has a different reason for rejecting the painters work.

(E) is talking about a positive evaluation all the way through.

What'd you think? I'd love to hear your perspective on this, as I am trying to improve my understanding of the new RC's. :)
 
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Re: Q10

by giladedelman Sat Sep 24, 2011 12:01 pm

Very nice explanation!
 
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Re: Q10

by luckyzrjz Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:27 pm

Thanks farhadshekib!
 
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Re: Q10

by yihannah90 Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:36 am

Hi,

Can someone please explain why (B) is wrong? When I tried this question under time pressure, I didn't even bother to read the rest of the choices. Now I see how (C) can work, but am still having some problem understanding why (B) cannot work.

I thought (B) was similar enough since the question stem is specifically asking for "the reaction" of the art critics.
farhadshekib Wrote:(B) has a different reason for rejecting the painters work.

Should this matter when the stem is asking for "the reaction"?

This is how I understood (B): art historians stopped praising someone after discovering a new, relevant fact.

And the passage: the critics stopped praising Meegeren's Emmanus after learning that it's a forgery.

Clearly, I am missing something here! HELP!
 
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Re: Q10

by zee.brad Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:41 pm

yihannah90 Wrote:Hi,

Can someone please explain why (B) is wrong? When I tried this question under time pressure, I didn't even bother to read the rest of the choices. Now I see how (C) can work, but am still having some problem understanding why (B) cannot work.

I thought (B) was similar enough since the question stem is specifically asking for "the reaction" of the art critics.
farhadshekib Wrote:(B) has a different reason for rejecting the painters work.

Should this matter when the stem is asking for "the reaction"?

This is how I understood (B): art historians stopped praising someone after discovering a new, relevant fact.

And the passage: the critics stopped praising Meegeren's Emmanus after learning that it's a forgery.

Clearly, I am missing something here! HELP!


For this one I wrongly chose B as well, but now I can see why B is wrong:
So critics in line 13, basically they praised some work that is not original
B. art historians can still think that painter's work as innovative even though they found out the painter lived more recently, so the fact about the painter has nothing to do with the work itself
C. they praised dinners but then they knew they were not from master chef (that they originally thought they were)
So C is a relatively good match, we do need to assume something though.
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Re: Q10

by ttunden Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:03 am

so what is wrong with D?? the dislike part ruined it?

When I was matching it up, I was looking for something that showed them to be embarrassed, something they praise and then something occurs that shows that whatever they praised it for was not accurate. So some type of inaccuracy.

I was down to B C and D

B I understand why it is wrong

I was down to C and D but I was hesitant with C because you don't know if the diners praised the food as delicious because they though tit was cooked by the master chef. There wasn't anything opposite like occurring. In the passage the critics praised the art as Vermeers finest, but then the opposite occurred and they found out it wasn't even Vermeers work. They were duped.

thats why I liked D. They were duped like in the passage.
 
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Re: Q10

by xiongdy_vip Tue Jun 30, 2015 1:37 am

I got why B is wrong, but I just don't get why C is correct. Who on earth prescribes that it can only be the master chef that can cook delicious food?
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Re: Q10

by maryadkins Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:02 am

No one, I suppose, but you're asked for the "most analogous" and (C) is the most analogous, for certain. No one would say Jan Vermeer is the only person who can paint well, either. Master chefs are known and praised for their work in the same way artists are.
 
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by MayaM405 Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:08 pm

Chose B on this one because I thought the discovery that someone was not original (though in the answer choice this would be due to time rather than forgery) was well paralleled, and I'm still having a hard time fully eliminating B. The points mentioned above are great but if someone seemed innovative, then you realized their work came out later, wouldn't that mean that they were likely copying rather than innovating?

On a more general note, I'm wondering if anyone has honed in on any techniques or processes that work well for these analogy questions?

What I've been doing is summarizing what I see in the passage (in this case I re read line 13 and thought okay, something comes out that proves a group wrong and it's embarrassing, maybe one person doesn't believe it). Then I go through each answer choice, and compare to the passage. This brought me down to B, C, D, though I quickly eliminated D because of the representation component.

I don't have a plan of attack when I get to answer choices like B and C. Anyone else have any tricks to share?
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Re: Q10

by DollaA628 Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:49 pm

MayaM405 Wrote:Chose B on this one because I thought the discovery that someone was not original (though in the answer choice this would be due to time rather than forgery) was well paralleled, and I'm still having a hard time fully eliminating B. The points mentioned above are great but if someone seemed innovative, then you realized their work came out later, wouldn't that mean that they were likely copying rather than innovating?

On a more general note, I'm wondering if anyone has honed in on any techniques or processes that work well for these analogy questions?

What I've been doing is summarizing what I see in the passage (in this case I re read line 13 and thought okay, something comes out that proves a group wrong and it's embarrassing, maybe one person doesn't believe it). Then I go through each answer choice, and compare to the passage. This brought me down to B, C, D, though I quickly eliminated D because of the representation component.

I don't have a plan of attack when I get to answer choices like B and C. Anyone else have any tricks to share?

What helped me choose C when I was stuck between B and C was realizing that the art historians in B were still evaluating the work of the same painter (they did not learn that the work was made by a different painter, they simply learned something different about the painter).

Whereas for C, the diners were praising the food (of what they believed to be made by the master chef) as delicious until they realized that it was not created by the master chef.

C is more analogous to the reaction of the art critics in line 13 because the diners were told that the food was not made by the master chef just as the forged painting was not made by Jan Vermeer.

Hope this helps.
 
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Re: Q10

by JessicaK163 Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:08 am

ttunden Wrote:so what is wrong with D?? the dislike part ruined it?

When I was matching it up, I was looking for something that showed them to be embarrassed, something they praise and then something occurs that shows that whatever they praised it for was not accurate. So some type of inaccuracy.

I was down to B C and D

B I understand why it is wrong

I was down to C and D but I was hesitant with C because you don't know if the diners praised the food as delicious because they though tit was cooked by the master chef. There wasn't anything opposite like occurring. In the passage the critics praised the art as Vermeers finest, but then the opposite occurred and they found out it wasn't even Vermeers work. They were duped.

thats why I liked D. They were duped like in the passage.


This might have come rather late for you. I totally share your confusion! Nowhere it was stated that the diners praise the work because they want to praise the chef. As Patrick has pointed out, in the text, the critics were in fact praising the painting not Vermeer. Therefore, choice C is not wrong for this reason.

However, I still don't find this enough to justify C. I need to prove that D is wrong. Here what I think, in D, it is said that the author "intended" to represent something the critics dislike. In the text, Van Meegeren is never said to have deliberately embarrassed the critics. He merely "revealed its origin".

I hope my answer could help.