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[DiarraP31]

Can someone please show me how they set this game up? I got to this game with 4-minutes left and ran out of time. I got the orientation question right. But upon reviewing I’m still struggling with how to best set it up for time.

[ohthatpatrick]

I'll give it a go, but this typing environment sometimes makes it visually challenging.

GAME TYPE?
it looks like 3D ordering to me, since we have five spots, but in each spot we need to keep track of two things: which artist (J K L N O) and which musician (T V W Y Z)

So I'd have five spots and write above and below the line.
__ __ __ __ __ ( J, K, L, N, O)
.........................( t, v, w, y, z)

Our books would draw two sets of lines:
__ __ __ __ __ ( J, K, L, N, O)
__ __ __ __ __ ( t, v, w, y, z)

RULES?
On 3D ordering games, the rules often look like domino tiles, because you draw a vertical rectangle with a top spot and a bottom spot, so that you can show your brain whether you're dealing with a top row or bottom row idea. Since I can't draw those here, I'll just represent top row / bottom row rules with a fraction.

R1: J - K - L

R2: t - v - w

R3: w ≠ 4

R4: can't do [N / y]

R5: must do [O / z]


INFERENCES / FRAMES / FLOATERS?

There aren't any floaters. We have 3 top row and 3 bottom row people in ordering rules. And the two leftovers in each case are in specific assignment rules.

The only character mentioned more than once was w.
It can't be 4, and it comes after t and v.
So w has to be 3 or 5.

I would probably frame that:

w = 3
__ __ __ __ __
__ __ w __ __

w = 5
__ __ __ __ __
__ __ __ __ w

We're only going to know something cool in the top one, since w in 3 forces t and v into 1/2.
_ _ _ __ __
t v w (y, z)

That means that O has to be in spot 4 or 5, since we always have [O / z]

_ _ _ ( _ , O)
t v w (y, z)

Since we can't have [ N / y ], it seems like the other person in that cloud has to be L, because J and K couldn't be in one of those last two spots, since L must come later than J and K.

That's all I see worth doing with the setup.

Frame 1:
( J - K, N) ( L , O)
..t.. v.. w.. (y, z)

on my paper, it would be clearer that we're dealing with [ L / y ] and [ O / z ] in those last two spots. I would have those two written as domino tiles with "flipsy" arrows showing either one could be 4 or 5.

Frame 2:
__ __ __ __ __ ( J - K - L, N, O)
__ __ __ __ w ( t - v, y, z)

Hope this helps.

[DiarraP31]

Thanks, Patrick!

I'll give it a go, but this typing environment sometimes makes it visually challenging.

GAME TYPE?
it looks like 3D ordering to me, since we have five spots, but in each spot we need to keep track of two things: which artist (J K L N O) and which musician (T V W Y Z)

So I'd have five spots and write above and below the line.
__ __ __ __ __ ( J, K, L, N, O)
.........................( t, v, w, y, z)

Our books would draw two sets of lines:
__ __ __ __ __ ( J, K, L, N, O)
__ __ __ __ __ ( t, v, w, y, z)

RULES?
On 3D ordering games, the rules often look like domino tiles, because you draw a vertical rectangle with a top spot and a bottom spot, so that you can show your brain whether you're dealing with a top row or bottom row idea. Since I can't draw those here, I'll just represent top row / bottom row rules with a fraction.

R1: J - K - L

R2: t - v - w

R3: w ≠ 4

R4: can't do [N / y]

R5: must do [O / z]


INFERENCES / FRAMES / FLOATERS?

There aren't any floaters. We have 3 top row and 3 bottom row people in ordering rules. And the two leftovers in each case are in specific assignment rules.

The only character mentioned more than once was w.
It can't be 4, and it comes after t and v.
So w has to be 3 or 5.

I would probably frame that:

w = 3
__ __ __ __ __
__ __ w __ __

w = 5
__ __ __ __ __
__ __ __ __ w

We're only going to know something cool in the top one, since w in 3 forces t and v into 1/2.
_ _ _ __ __
t v w (y, z)

That means that O has to be in spot 4 or 5, since we always have [O / z]

_ _ _ ( _ , O)
t v w (y, z)

Since we can't have [ N / y ], it seems like the other person in that cloud has to be L, because J and K couldn't be in one of those last two spots, since L must come later than J and K.

That's all I see worth doing with the setup.

Frame 1:
( J - K, N) ( L , O)
..t.. v.. w.. (y, z)

on my paper, it would be clearer that we're dealing with [ L / y ] and [ O / z ] in those last two spots. I would have those two written as domino tiles with "flipsy" arrows showing either one could be 4 or 5.

Frame 2:
__ __ __ __ __ ( J - K - L, N, O)
__ __ __ __ w ( t - v, y, z)

Hope this helps.