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Unlike most severance packages, which require

by philip Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:28 am

Unlike most severance packages, which require workers to stay until the last day scheduled to collect, workers at the automobile company are eligible for its severance package even if they find a new job before they are terminated.

(A)the last day scheduled to collect, workers at the automobile company are eligible for its severance package

(B)the last day they are scheduled to collect, workers are eligible for the automobile company's severance package

(C)their last scheduled day to collect, the automobile company offers its severance package to workers

(D)their last scheduled day in order to collect, the automobile company's severance package is available to workers

(E)the last day that they are scheduled to collect, the automobile company's severance package is available to workers

I can't see the difference between D and E. The OA is D. Please help ~
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by Sudhan Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:19 pm

Unlike most severance packages, which require workers to stay until the last day scheduled to collect, workers at the automobile company are eligible for its severance package even if they find a new job before they are terminated.

(A)the last day scheduled to collect, workers at the automobile company are eligible for its severance package

(B)the last day they are scheduled to collect, workers are eligible for the automobile company's severance package

(C)their last scheduled day to collect, the automobile company offers its severance package to workers

(D)their last scheduled day in order to collect, the automobile company's severance package is available to workers

(E)the last day that they are scheduled to collect, the automobile company's severance package is available to workers


E appears to be more wordy than D. Also, their refers to workers in D which is correct. In E they may refer to severance packages or workers.

Hence D.

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by RonPurewal Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:49 am

Sudhan Wrote:(E)the last day that they are scheduled to collect, the automobile company's severance package is available to workers


the problem here is that "the last NOUN that they are scheduled to VERB" implies that NOUN is the direct object of VERB. i.e., this version implies that the workers are collecting days. that doesn't make sense.

for instance, "the last show that the band is scheduled to play" would make sense, since "show" is actually meant to be the direct object of "play".

Sudhan Wrote:Also, their refers to workers in D which is correct. In E they may refer to severance packages or workers.


not an issue here: 'they' and 'their' have exactly the same possible antecedents. so apparently this is good enough to refer to 'workers' in either choice.
remember, if you have the same pronoun 'issue' in all of the answer choices (or at least in all the choices that have a fighting chance of being correct), then it's not really an issue at all.
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by philip Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:26 pm

Ron, I wonder how many '800+6's you have got... haha, thank you very much!
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by RonPurewal Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:29 am

philip Wrote:Ron, I wonder how many '800+6's you have got... haha, thank you very much!


i have hundreds of them.
one time a couple of them fell out of my pocket at a club, and these two random bouncers wound up getting into hbs.
true story
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by philip Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:51 am

Haha Ron, I am really jealous of those bouncers. I also hope to wind up getting into hbs ...

Anyway, if I can finally go to the US (preferrably the hbs), I would be honored to meet you and make a friend with you, since I always admire people who can do the best whatever they do. If possible, send me an email at philip9999@gmail.com. Let's keep in touch. Thank you very much!
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by Guest Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:23 am

Ron,

thanks a lot for your great help.

The SC is so difficult that I'm confused for long time.
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Re: Unlike most severance packages, which require

by tankobe Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:38 am

in the option C:
1# packages (which) require workers to stay until the last scheduled day to collect[them]
we don't need 'them'.
however, i have met a question in which the pronoun must be showed:
2# Archaeologists in Ireland believe that a recently discovered chalice was probably buried to keep it from being stolen by invaders.

why?
i have heard that 3# will also be OK:
3# Archaeologists in Ireland believe that a recently discovered chalice was probably buried to be kept from being stolen by invaders.
and what about the following too sentence?
4# Archaeologists in Ireland believe that a recently discovered chalice was probably buried to protect it .
5# Archaeologists in Ireland believe that a recently discovered chalice was probably buried to be protected.
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Re: Unlike most severance packages, which require

by RonPurewal Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:53 am

tankobe Wrote:in the option C:
1# packages (which) require workers to stay until the last scheduled day to collect[them]
we don't need 'them'.
however, i have met a question in which the pronoun must be showed:
2# Archaeologists in Ireland believe that a recently discovered chalice was probably buried to keep it from being stolen by invaders.

why?
i have heard that 3# will also be OK:
3# Archaeologists in Ireland believe that a recently discovered chalice was probably buried to be kept from being stolen by invaders.
and what about the following too sentence?
4# Archaeologists in Ireland believe that a recently discovered chalice was probably buried to protect it .
5# Archaeologists in Ireland believe that a recently discovered chalice was probably buried to be protected.


as for your first question, i don't think this is any sort of generalizable feature; it's more a function of the fact that you are allowed to use "collect" as an intransitive verb (i.e., a verb that doesn't have an object). in other words, in situations like this, you can just say "they collected" without having to follow the verb "collected" with an object.

what's the source of this new question that you're posting? without the source, it's really not possible for us to go into much detail about the question.
i can, however, tell you that the idiomatic usage of "keep from", without an object, is strictly reflexive -- i.e., it only applies to the actual subject of the action.
for instance,
i wrapped the blanket around myself to keep from getting cold.
since the chalice is clearly not the agent of the action in this case, you can't use that construction.
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Re: Unlike most severance packages, which require

by chitrangada.maitra Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:17 pm

Why is option C incorrect?
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Re: Unlike most severance packages, which require

by parthatayi Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:07 am

chitrangada.maitra Wrote:Why is option C incorrect?


C is incorrect because the phrase "Unlike most severance packages," incorrectly modifies the automobile company.

Thanks and Regards,
Partha.
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Re: Unlike most severance packages, which require

by chitrangada.maitra Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:36 pm

Oh! totally missed that! Thanks!
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Re: Unlike most severance packages, which require

by mschwrtz Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:42 pm

so clear enough?

then thank you parthatayi
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Re: Unlike most severance packages, which require

by neo_yin Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:00 pm

What if E. was changed to "the last day that they were scheduled to collect money", what that make the choice correct?
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Re: Unlike most severance packages, which require

by RonPurewal Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:29 am

neo_yin Wrote:What if E. was changed to "the last day that they were scheduled to collect money", what that make the choice correct?


No. That change would make it ungrammatical"”it wouldn't be a legitimate construction at all. It would still have the problem described above, in addition to an extra word without a clear grammatical function. (You can't write "the novel that I read a book.")