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Tough One - "Consider"

by acethegmat Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:23 pm

Written in the early eleventh century by Lady Murasaki Shikibu as a fictionalized account of political and romantic intrigue in the Japanese imperial court, literary historians consider The Tale of Genji to be the world's first novel.

A. Shikibu as a fictionalized account of political and romantic intrigue in the Japanese imperial court, literary historians consider The Tale of Genji to be

B. Shikibu in the manner of a fictionalized account of political and romantic intrigue in the Japanese imperial court, literary historians consider The Tale of Genji as

C. Shikibu, a fictionalized accounting for political and romantic intrigue in the Japanese imperial court, literary historians consider The Tale of Genji

D. Shikibu as a fictionalized account of political and romantic intrigue in the Japanese imperial court, The Tale of Genji is considered by literary historians to be

E. Shikibu, The Tale of Genji is a fictionalized account of political and romantic intrigue in the Japanese imperial court which literary historians consider to be
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Re: Tough One - "Consider"

by morningdew123 Tue Jun 01, 2010 3:14 pm

D
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Re: Tough One - "Consider"

by s.aamershah Tue Jun 01, 2010 3:55 pm

What's the official answer?
Consider x as y... and consider x to be y are not idiomatic.
I believe the proper idiom is consider x y

Actually I think D is right. I glanced over it initially only looking at consider but the sentence has a modifier issue and "considered x to be y"is "suspect" but I guess not always wrong.
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Re: Tough One - "Consider"

by s.aamershah Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:10 pm

Actually I think D is right. I glanced over it initially only looking at consider but the sentence has a modifier issue and "considered x to be y"is "suspect" but I guess not always wrong.
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Re: Tough One - "Consider"

by acethegmat Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:29 am

Ron, would you please enlighten us on the use of - Consider to be or not to be.

Thanks.
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Re: Tough One - "Consider"

by sanyalpritish Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:46 am

IMO - D
The First part of the Sentence is Modifier talking about about the Book which means after the modifier ends, The book Name should come up:

Which Happens in D and E

E has many issues Like usage of "Which"

A. Shikibu as a fictionalized account of political and romantic intrigue in the Japanese imperial court, literary historians consider The Tale of Genji to be

B. Shikibu in the manner of a fictionalized account of political and romantic intrigue in the Japanese imperial court, literary historians consider The Tale of Genji as

C. Shikibu, a fictionalized accounting for political and romantic intrigue in the Japanese imperial court, literary historians consider The Tale of Genji

D. Shikibu as a fictionalized account of political and romantic intrigue in the Japanese imperial court, The Tale of Genji is considered by literary historians to be

E. Shikibu, The Tale of Genji is a fictionalized account of political and romantic intrigue in the Japanese imperial court which literary historians consider to be
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Re: Tough One - "Consider"

by vinayak.stalwart Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:37 am

I think D, although I'm not satisfied with the idiom 'considered to be'.

Ron, any inputs ?

Here is a wacky thought:
By any chance does the phrase 'literary historians to be' imply 'the people who are going to become the literary historians' ?

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Re: Tough One - "Consider"

by Haaress Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:26 pm

IMO the answer is C.

It is unidiomatic to say "Considered as" or "Considered to be". The correct idiom must take the form "Consider X Y".

In C , ....., a fictionalized accounting for political and romantic intrigue in the Japanese imperial court, .... seems to modify what had been written and not the Author.

Please provide the OA and the source? Thanks!

Now I can sit back and wait for the technician Ron. Thanks!
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Re: Tough One - "Consider"

by vijaykumar.kondepudi Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:08 pm

IMO C.
The correct idiom is "Consider X Y".
Eg. I consider her a freind --> Correct

Please post the OA

Thanks.
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Re: Tough One - "Consider"

by acethegmat Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:17 am

Ron, would you please explain. Thanks.
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Re: Tough One - "Consider"

by s.aamershah Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:06 am

Can someone please post the official answer.
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Re: Tough One - "Consider"

by acethegmat Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:10 pm

OA is D.

Ron?
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Re: Tough One - "Consider"

by akhp77 Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:56 pm

First past of the sentence is a modifier

"Written in the early eleventh century by Lady Murasaki Shikibu ..." is a modifier and it modifies to Novel "The Tale of Genji".

"Consider X Y" is CORRECT IDIOM. No doubt.
But "consider to be" is also correct. if we do not have better choice, then it [consider to be] can be acceptable.

"Consider as" is INCORRECT IDIOM in GMAT. But again if we have major error with other choice, then we have to bear with idiom.

So, D is the better choice. "Consider to be" is correct and modifier correctly modifies to the Novel.

E has error with WHICH.

Correct if I am wrong.
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Re: Tough One - "Consider"

by tim Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:17 am

ALWAYS consider hard and fast grammar rules before idioms. A, B, and C have a misplaced modifier so they are out for sure. We're left with D and E and, even though they have a suspect idiom, they are not in violation of a strict grammar rule against misplaced modifiers. E has the problem with "which" that others have pointed out..
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Re: Tough One - "Consider"

by karun395 Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:17 am

tim Wrote:ALWAYS consider hard and fast grammar rules before idioms. A, B, and C have a misplaced modifier so they are out for sure. We're left with D and E and, even though they have a suspect idiom, they are not in violation of a strict grammar rule against misplaced modifiers. E has the problem with "which" that others have pointed out..


Isn't "X of Y, which" an exception to the touch rule.

X= Account
Y= political and romantic..... in the Jap Imperial court.

Eliminated E in the end because D sounded better not for "which". Could you pls explain this particular exception and its application?