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Re: The federal immigration station on Ellis Island

by RonPurewal Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:43 pm

violetwind Wrote:Hi Ron, How should I see the "entering" in the choice D?

it seems not that right to me as it implies an ongoing process, isn't it?


see this post:
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Re: The federal immigration station on Ellis Island

by RonPurewal Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:45 pm

violetwind Wrote:could any instructor take a look at my questions? It's been a month......

Thank you!


don't do this -- i.e., DO NOT post a message that says "please answer my question".
this is called "bumping" the thread; it brings the thread up to the most recent position in the folder.

the problem, of course -- besides the fact that "reminder posts" are unprofessional and rude -- is that we answer the posts strictly in order from oldest to newest. therefore, if you post a message, with no content, that says "please answer this post", then you are moving the thread to the LAST place in the queue.

please be patient -- we will get to all of the threads. if you make posts like this one, you're just making yourself wait longer.

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Re: The federal immigration station on Ellis Island

by ra0725x Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:26 pm

hey
please explain for me why
can't just the word "opened" in (B) and (C) be viewed as intransitive verb and so it is parallel to "was rebuilt" ?
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Re: The federal immigration station on Ellis Island

by RonPurewal Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:26 am

ra0725x Wrote:hey
please explain for me why
can't just the word "opened" in (B) and (C) be viewed as intransitive verb and so it is parallel to "was rebuilt" ?


the parallelism is not what's wrong with those choices.
those choices are wrong because the modifiers don't make sense in context -- for an explanation, see the post by stacey (username "StaceyKoprince") on the first page of the thread.
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Re: The federal immigration station on Ellis Island

by ashish-mohan Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:10 am

D says: First opened in 1892, then rebuilt in 1900, the federal immigration station on Ellis Island processed nearly three quarters of all immigrants entering the United States in the first quarter of the twentieth century

I recollect reading somewhere that it is not preferable on GMAT to have such "consecutive modifiers:
a) First opened in 1892
b) then rebuilt in 1900

In light of this sentence, it looks like my understanding is not correct. Can an instructor please confirm.

As per my understanding, it should have been: "First opened in 1892 and then rebuilt in 1900".
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Re: The federal immigration station on Ellis Island

by RonPurewal Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:56 am

"I recollect reading somewhere..."

Where?

And, more importantly, what was the context?
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Re: The federal immigration station on Ellis Island

by mehmetserek Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:57 pm

Hi Ron,
Could you please elaborate how we can use 2 modifiers in a row which modify the same noun?

Similarly, does below example also use 2 modifiers in a row?

"The hognose snake puts on an impressive bluff, hissing and rearing back, broadening the flesh behind its head the way a cobra does and feigning repeated strikes, but..."

Thanks in advance.
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Re: The federal immigration station on Ellis Island

by RonPurewal Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:07 am

ashish-mohan Wrote:D says: First opened in 1892, then rebuilt in 1900, the federal immigration station on Ellis Island processed nearly three quarters of all immigrants entering the United States in the first quarter of the twentieth century

I recollect reading somewhere that it is not preferable on GMAT to have such "consecutive modifiers:
a) First opened in 1892
b) then rebuilt in 1900

In light of this sentence, it looks like my understanding is not correct. Can an instructor please confirm.

As per my understanding, it should have been: "First opened in 1892 and then rebuilt in 1900".


ok, but you don't have that option in any of the viable choices.

the only choice containing that construction is (b), but (b) has some very obvious errors. ("having" implies that the station processed those immigrants before it opened; the present tense "enter" is clearly inappropriate for a historical event.)

so, non-issue.

if you want, you can think of "first xxxx, then yyyy" as a single modifier.
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Re: The federal immigration station on Ellis Island

by RonPurewal Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:08 am

mehmetserek Wrote: "The hognose snake puts on an impressive bluff, hissing and rearing back, broadening the flesh behind its head the way a cobra does and feigning repeated strikes, but..."

Thanks in advance.


that's a similar example, yes.
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Re: The federal immigration station on Ellis Island

by gmatkiller_24 Tue May 26, 2015 3:28 pm

Hi, Ron:

in choice C, the structure looks like this : VING, independent clause

here "processing" acts as noun modifier to the federal immigration station , and after that was the main verb " opened " and "rebuilt"

does it seem to convey an illogical meaning that the processing somewhat leads to the opening and the rebuilding of the immigrant station?


in correct choice D,
opened and rebuilt act as noun modifier placing at the beginning

it seems to convey a more logical meaning that the station was opened and then rebuilt then it processed(the sequential order of the action makes more sense)


is there something wrong with my analysis? Please clarify,thanks
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Re: The federal immigration station on Ellis Island

by RonPurewal Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:57 pm

that is a correct understanding. nicely done.

by the way, please try not to underline so many things; it's much harder to read and understand a post with so many (seemingly random) words in bold underline.
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Re: The federal immigration station on Ellis Island

by gmatkiller_24 Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:03 pm

RonPurewal Wrote:that is a correct understanding. nicely done.

by the way, please try not to underline so many things; it's much harder to read and understand a post with so many (seemingly random) words in bold underline.
thanks.



sorry for that inconvenience. I will avoid that in the future. Really appreciate for you prompt reply. Thanks very much.
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Re: The federal immigration station on Ellis Island

by RonPurewal Sat Jun 06, 2015 4:36 am

no problem.
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Re: The federal immigration station on Ellis Island

by NaiwuH656 Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:01 am

hello guys , I still feel confused why there is not "and" between the two modifiers "First opened in 1892" and "then rebuilt in 1900"

It would be more gramatically correct if it write like this "First opened in 1892 and then rebuilt in 1900". I totally understand that the other four choices are ugly, but it's the grammar mistake that exsits in CHOICE D. Can anyone shed some light on this? :? :D
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Re: The federal immigration station on Ellis Island

by RonPurewal Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:27 am

NaiwuH656 Wrote:it's the grammar mistake that exsits in CHOICE D.


^^ no.
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never.
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