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The concept of the grand jury dates from the twelfth -centur

by RichaChampion Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:31 am

The concept of the grand jury dates from the twelfth -century, when Henry II of England ordered panels of common citizens should prepare lists of who were their communities' suspected criminals.

A) should prepare lists of who were their communities' suspected criminals
B) would do the preparation of lists of their communities' suspected criminals
C) preparing lists of suspected criminals in their communities
D) the preparing of a list of suspected criminals in their communities
E) to prepare lists of suspected criminals in their communities

Ron Sir,

My question: Although I have practiced so much that mostly even when i have no grammars based conclusions in a questions I am able to get to the correct answer. I took me less than a minute to reach to the correct answer i.e. E

what is the Grammar way to Kick answer A and favor answer E.

Some says since ordered is a bossy word so you need either of these two forms: "that+Verb" or "to verb"

Is it a correct interpretation or something else in terms of grammar.


I looked at this question and the first thing that came to my mind helped me to get to the correct answer.
I sensed a troublesome thing in the continuity at the point where the underlining begins and I thought that we need some connector that firstly divides this sentence in 2 parts and also acts as joining them. It's only in the option E that "to" acts like something that I've just said.
Henry II of England ordered panels of common citizens to prepare lists of suspected criminals in their communities.
I'd admit that I lack knowledge in explaining the issue and the explanation sounds pretty vague. I still wanted to share this as I thought it was a right split.
I did a lot of research about what's going on here. I could just find that to acts here as infinitive or something. I believe this is out of scope of GMAT.
Can somebody help me with this?

P.S.-I just wonder how this sentence would be:
Henry II of England ordered that panels of common citizens prepare lists of suspected criminals in their communities.



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Re: The concept of the grand jury dates from the twelfth -centur

by RonPurewal Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:15 am

even if you find it difficult to find some absolute reason to eliminate choice A, it should be easy to compare choices A and E, and notice that choice A is objectively worse and that choice E is objectively better.

you can see that, right?
if you see "lists of who were ... criminals" vs. "lists of ... criminals", then, there's no question which of those is better and which is worse.

remember—the correct answers will NEVER contain worse writing than the incorrect answers. so, if you see a difference as clear as that one, you can safely eliminate the choice with bad writing.

this is also discussed here:
https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/foru ... ml#p118104
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Re: The concept of the grand jury dates from the twelfth -centur

by RonPurewal Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:17 am

also, the use of both "ordered" and "should" is redundant. ("ordered" already carries the meaning that something is mandatory/required, so "should" adds no value.)
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Re: The concept of the grand jury dates from the twelfth -centur

by MahimB536 Wed May 11, 2016 12:13 pm

Hi Ron,

In this question, isn't one of the issues in the options A & B that there are 2 main verbs without any connector or sub-ordinator?
In A-- ordered and should prepare
In B-- ordered and would do

The right answer E connects ordered and prepare with "to".

Thanks--
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Re: The concept of the grand jury dates from the twelfth -centur

by RonPurewal Wed May 25, 2016 2:43 am

well, usually you have "that" in those kinds of constructions (e.g., The boss ordered that everyone's wage be raised by 10 percent).

there are some instances, though, in which this "that" can be left out.
e.g.,
The ancient Greeks knew that no one could square the circle.
The ancient Greeks knew no one could square the circle.
The ancient Greeks said that no one could square the circle.
The ancient Greeks said no one could square the circle.
The ancient Greeks believed that no one could square the circle.
The ancient Greeks believed no one could square the circle.
(all fine)

you don't have to decide WHEN "that" can be omitted here -- that's a stylistic thing, and the exam doesn't test style -- but you have to know that this is something that can occasionally happen.

(here, it's bad writing to omit "that" -- on top of the other problems that exist in those choices -- but, again, you aren't responsible for stylistic conventions.)
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Re: The concept of the grand jury dates from the twelfth -centur

by MahimB536 Mon May 30, 2016 8:48 am

Thankyou Ron! I see your point. :-)
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Re: The concept of the grand jury dates from the twelfth -centur

by RonPurewal Wed Jun 01, 2016 6:07 am

you're welcome.