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Re: Subject verb agreement - SC guide

by tim Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:33 pm

that line you quote contains a mostly pronouns that are actually treated as plural. remember, "most" does not mean "always".. :)
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Re: Subject verb agreement - SC guide

by prepp Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:36 pm

hehe.. sure :)
Thanks for the clarification and your explanations!
It helps provide a solid foundation..

tim Wrote:that line you quote contains a mostly pronouns that are actually treated as plural. remember, "most" does not mean "always".. :)
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Re: Subject verb agreement - SC guide

by tim Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:41 pm

no problem..
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Re: Subject verb agreement - SC guide

by rte.sushil Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:30 pm

tim Wrote:you should not be talking about verbs here at all. "rising" is not a verb in this example, so any discussion of transitive/intransitive or direct objects is irrelevant..



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in the above link, plural or singular for rising is decided based on transitive or intransitive verb.

Rising Interest rates is a worrisome sign for the economy
or
Rising Interest rates are a worrisome sign for the economy
it's plural.
"rising" is an adjective describing interest rates.
in fact, "rising" can't take a direct object, so this must be the case even if you don't understand the sentence at all.


declining interest rates are making it harder to make money from investments. --> here, "declining" is an adjective describing "interest rates". since "interest rates" is the core noun, we go plural.


declining dinner invitations is not good for your networking ability. --> here, "declining dinner invitations" is a noun phrase. "declining" acts as a gerund (noun-type "ing"), and "dinner invitations" is the direct object.
NOTE: this type of construction is impossible for "rising", which can't take direct objects, so your job there is easier.



So can i say that if the verb is intransistive then it will not act as adjective and the singular/plural will be decided based on noun (as in interest rates), hence rising interest rate/rates is always singular(rate)/plural(rates)
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Re: Subject verb agreement - SC guide

by Willy Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:12 pm

rte.sushil, the link you have provided above isn't working. Can you please again check the link?
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Re: Subject verb agreement - SC guide

by jnelson0612 Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:17 pm

Willy Wrote:rte.sushil, the link you have provided above isn't working. Can you please again check the link?


It doesn't work for me either, and I can't seem to find the original material. rte.sushil, if you are still around please repost, thanks!
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