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Re: Salt deposits and moisture

by RonPurewal Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:05 pm

mondegreen Wrote:Hi Ron! So can I paraphrase this as : For two or more nouns/pronouns performing the same action(any verb), we don't have to repeat the action(verb) twice?


I don't think I fully understand the question. Please provide examples.
Thanks.

And just for my own understanding, the action above is "is", which is the same for "that" and "abcd"?

Thanks,


The point of "Like" is to state that two subjects both do something.

In other words, if you have
Like X, Y does blah blah blah
then both X and Y do blah blah blah.
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Re: Salt deposits and moisture

by mondegreen Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:03 pm

RonPurewal Wrote:
mondegreen Wrote:Hi Ron! So can I paraphrase this as : For two or more nouns/pronouns performing the same action(any verb), we don't have to repeat the action(verb) twice?


I don't think I fully understand the question. Please provide examples.
Thanks.


if you have a parallel construction involving tensed verbs, and the tensed verb is EXACTLY THE SAME in both (or all, if there are more than 2) parts of the construction, then you may omit the verb in all but the first part.

for instance:
the rain was torrential and the wind fierce.
in this case, we're allowed to omit the second 'was', because it's identical to the 'was' in the first part.

Sorry if it was unclear. I wanted to draw a parallel between what you explained above and my own understanding.

In the above sentence, as 'was' is the action denoting word for both rain and wind, we can ignore it in all but the first part.

Have i got it correct? Or another oopsie?

Thanks.
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Re: Salt deposits and moisture

by jlucero Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:55 pm

mondegreen Wrote:if you have a parallel construction involving tensed verbs, and the tensed verb is EXACTLY THE SAME in both (or all, if there are more than 2) parts of the construction, then you may omit the verb in all but the first part.

for instance:
the rain was torrential and the wind fierce.
in this case, we're allowed to omit the second 'was', because it's identical to the 'was' in the first part.

Sorry if it was unclear. I wanted to draw a parallel between what you explained above and my own understanding.

In the above sentence, as 'was' is the action denoting word for both rain and wind, we can ignore it in all but the first part.

Have i got it correct? Or another oopsie?

Thanks.


That sentence is acceptable and your reasoning sound (parallel structure with an omitted verb intended), but I do want to highlight something else Ron mentioned in a previous post:

It's extremely unlikely that you'd ever see a sentence written that way on the GMAT exam, by the way, because that's poor placement.

It's better to learn how the GMAT writes sentences than come up with other ways of writing things and asking if they are ok. We don't spend any time talking about calculus on these forums, since it's not useful for the GMAT. Likewise, it's not the best use of your time learning what's acceptable and what's not in the English language, if your goal is to improve your GMAT score.
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Re: Salt deposits and moisture

by mondegreen Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:19 am

jlucero Wrote:
It's better to learn how the GMAT writes sentences than come up with other ways of writing things and asking if they are ok. We don't spend any time talking about calculus on these forums, since it's not useful for the GMAT. Likewise, it's not the best use of your time learning what's acceptable and what's not in the English language, if your goal is to improve your GMAT score.


It was just one of those things which was nagging me.Thanks for clearing it.
And Yes,thanks for the sound piece of advice!Makes sense.
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Re: Salt deposits and moisture

by RonPurewal Sat Nov 09, 2013 7:21 am

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Re: Salt deposits and moisture

by ZHUJ908 Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:36 am

RonPurewal Wrote:
rx_11 Wrote:Hi, instructors,

Could u explain what's wrong with D?

Thanks very much!


if you're going to use a "that"/"those" construction, then the modifier MUST be DIRECTLY attached to "that"/"those".

e.g.
the population of argentina is more than ten times that of uruguay.
--> CORRECT
note that the modifier "of uruguay" is attached directly to "that" (a relative pronoun that stands for "population").


the number of people in argentina is more than ten times as large as that is in uruguay.
--> INCORRECT
you aren't allowed to split up "that of uruguay".

note that this single consideration will actually eliminate all of (c), (d), (e).



"you aren't allowed to split up "that of uruguay"."

should it be writed as "that of people"?
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Re: Salt deposits and moisture

by RonPurewal Tue Mar 31, 2015 7:53 am

"that" = "number of people" (which is the same in both parts).
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Re: Salt deposits and moisture

by AsadA969 Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:31 am

farley99 Wrote:Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of Tigris and Euphrates.

a. same
b. that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations
c. that flourished at the same time those had
d. flourishing at the same time as those did
e. flourishing at the same time as those were


In C, D, and E, there is a pronoun ''those''. Here, those is plural. IS ''those' is used to refer 'ancient civilization', but 'ancient civilization' is singular. So, i've to scrutinize something, which is plural. Here, "the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates" is blocked off by COMMA, right?
My question is: should I look for plural noun out of THAT COMMA (e.g., Salt deposits and moisture threaten...... , [/color][/color]?

also, 'Salt deposits and moisture' is what? is it the subject?
Ron, Can you please whole the sentence so that we can comprehend it easily?
Thanks...
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Re: Salt deposits and moisture

by RonPurewal Wed Sep 14, 2016 5:09 am

yes, "those" would have to stand for a plural noun.

'Salt deposits and moisture' is what? is it the subject?


yes, that's the grammatical subject of the sentence—although it's not really involved in the decision-making process for this problem.
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Re: Salt deposits and moisture

by RonPurewal Wed Sep 14, 2016 5:09 am

Ron, Can you please whole the sentence so that we can comprehend it easily?


i have no idea what "whole the sentence" is supposed to mean.
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Re: Salt deposits and moisture

by AsadA969 Wed Sep 14, 2016 5:49 pm

RonPurewal Wrote:
Ron, Can you please whole the sentence so that we can comprehend it easily?


i have no idea what "whole the sentence" is supposed to mean.

Ron, Can you paraphrase the whole sentence so that we can understand the intended meaning of the sentence?
Sorry for bothering you.
Thanks...
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Re: Salt deposits and moisture

by RonPurewal Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:06 pm

• the ruins of an ancient civilization (mohenjo-daro) have been dug up from the ground.
——this civilization was active at the same time as a couple other ancient civilizations that we know about.
• if things keep going the way they're going now, those ruins will soon be obliterated by salt and humidity.