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People Mover

by thapliyalabhi Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:44 pm

This is a Manhattan GMAT question bank word problem.

There are 10 women and 3 men in room A. One person is picked at random from room A and moved to room B, where there are already 3 women and 5 men. If a single person is then to be picked from room B, what is the probability that a woman will be picked?

(A)13/21
(B)49/117
(C)40/117
(D)15/52
(E)5/18

The solution has been given as 10/13* 4/9+3/13 * 3/9

My doubt is when the question asks about the probability that a woman will be picked, does that mean the probability that a woman is picked from room B. If that is the case, can't we just solve the question like this:

Room B has either 4W & 5M OR 3W & 6M.
So, probability of selecting a woman from B = 4/9 + 3/9=>7/9

Please tell what is wrong here.
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Re: People Mover

by RonPurewal Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:26 am

thapliyalabhi Wrote:This is a Manhattan GMAT question bank word problem.

There are 10 women and 3 men in room A. One person is picked at random from room A and moved to room B, where there are already 3 women and 5 men. If a single person is then to be picked from room B, what is the probability that a woman will be picked?

(A)13/21
(B)49/117
(C)40/117
(D)15/52
(E)5/18

The solution has been given as 10/13* 4/9+3/13 * 3/9

My doubt is when the question asks about the probability that a woman will be picked, does that mean the probability that a woman is picked from room B. If that is the case, can't we just solve the question like this:

Room B has either 4W & 5M OR 3W & 6M.
So, probability of selecting a woman from B = 4/9 + 3/9=>7/9

Please tell what is wrong here.


well, you should actually be able to tell that this solution (7/9) is wrong by pure common sense, without having to calculate anything.
just think about it -- in both possibilities, less than half the people in room B are female. so, clearly, your probability must work out to be less than 1/2; it's more likely that you'll pick a man, no matter what happens.

the problem is that you're missing the 10/13 and the 3/13 that need to be multiplied by these fractions. this choice is the second event in a series of two events, so you must account for the first event, too.

if you still don't see what's wrong here, change the initial setup of room B to 6 women and 2 men, and then work the problem again; your method will give a probability of greater than 1, which doesn't make any sense.
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Re: People Mover

by thapliyalabhi Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:55 pm

RonPurewal Wrote:
thapliyalabhi Wrote:This is a Manhattan GMAT question bank word problem.

There are 10 women and 3 men in room A. One person is picked at random from room A and moved to room B, where there are already 3 women and 5 men. If a single person is then to be picked from room B, what is the probability that a woman will be picked?

(A)13/21
(B)49/117
(C)40/117
(D)15/52
(E)5/18

The solution has been given as 10/13* 4/9+3/13 * 3/9

My doubt is when the question asks about the probability that a woman will be picked, does that mean the probability that a woman is picked from room B. If that is the case, can't we just solve the question like this:

Room B has either 4W & 5M OR 3W & 6M.
So, probability of selecting a woman from B = 4/9 + 3/9=>7/9

Please tell what is wrong here.


well, you should actually be able to tell that this solution (7/9) is wrong by pure common sense, without having to calculate anything.
just think about it -- in both possibilities, less than half the people in room B are female. so, clearly, your probability must work out to be less than 1/2; it's more likely that you'll pick a man, no matter what happens.

the problem is that you're missing the 10/13 and the 3/13 that need to be multiplied by these fractions. this choice is the second event in a series of two events, so you must account for the first event, too.

if you still don't see what's wrong here, change the initial setup of room B to 6 women and 2 men, and then work the problem again; your method will give a probability of greater than 1, which doesn't make any sense.



Super Ron !
Thanks. So, just because I didn't consider the first event, my probability is coming more than expected.
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Re: People Mover

by RonPurewal Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:19 pm

Yes.

What's even more important is that you recognize at once that 7/9 is definitely the wrong answer.
if any answer ever violates common sense, don't pick it, even if you find it in the answer choices.