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OG Sentence Correction

by poojaswamy Sun May 22, 2011 3:05 am

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Re: OG Sentence Correction

by RonPurewal Thu May 26, 2011 10:22 pm

unfortunately, OG questions are banned on this forum. please read the forum rules before posting!
thank you.
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Re: OG Sentence Correction

by natalie Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:04 am

Ron:

refers to your earlier post, i'm not gonna post the whole question here, instead i changed the vocabs slightly, if it still violate the OG rule, please go ahead and delete it.

The structure of this question confused me. I remembered you said that the following three cant be a subject.
1) Object of a verb
2) Object of a prep.
3) conjunction+clause

somehow in this question, the correct option(in a different but similar version)
shows :

The use is of lie machine is based on the assumption that lying induces reactions in an individual that, in turn, create unconscious physiological responses.

the "that" here plays the role as a subject of "create" but somehow refers to the "reaction," which is a object of the verb "induces"

Am i making mistakes about the structure of this sentence or the Subject grammatical rule?



Appreciated if you can clarify that.

Nat
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Re: OG Sentence Correction

by RonPurewal Tue Jun 07, 2011 6:51 am

natalie Wrote:Ron:

refers to your earlier post, i'm not gonna post the whole question here, instead i changed the vocabs slightly, if it still violate the OG rule, please go ahead and delete it.

The structure of this question confused me. I remembered you said that the following three cant be a subject.
1) Object of a verb
2) Object of a prep.
3) conjunction+clause

somehow in this question, the correct option(in a different but similar version)
shows :

The use is of lie machine is based on the assumption that lying induces reactions in an individual that, in turn, create unconscious physiological responses.

the "that" here plays the role as a subject of "create" but somehow refers to the "reaction," which is a object of the verb "induces"

Am i making mistakes about the structure of this sentence or the Subject grammatical rule?



Appreciated if you can clarify that.

Nat


the statements you've made here are correct. note that this problem is not some sort of weird exception to this rule.

as you pointed out yourself, the actual subject of the verb is the pronoun "that". this pronoun may refer to "reaction", but it's a different word.
in fact, this is the whole point of using the pronoun in this kind of structure -- because the noun itself can't be used as the subject (for the reasons you've stated above). there are no such restrictions on the pronoun.