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Re: Re:

by RonPurewal Sat Mar 05, 2016 3:07 pm

hm? that's a purely objective, rational line of thought -- basically, are we talking about the actual abilities/capabilities of someone/something?

there's no reason why native speakers of english would have any advantage in considering that issue.
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Re: Often major economic shifts are so gradual as to be...

by tim Fri Mar 11, 2016 3:48 pm

And no, you can NEVER EVER eliminate an answer choice because it is wordy. Unless you don't mind getting the question wrong, that is. :)

Please don't use being a non-native speaker as an excuse to abandon logic and use the wrong approach on questions. That is one of the surest ways to guarantee failure on the GMAT.
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Re: Often major economic shifts are so gradual as to be...

by aflaamM589 Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:49 am

RonPurewal Wrote:
goelmohit2002 Wrote:Can some one please tell what is wrong with D and E ?

B I think is breaking the idiom...so .....so that


(e) is unidiomatic. you can't mix "enough" and "so that".
the correct idiom is "enough to...". you can't "double up" with another idiom.

as for (d), i'm not sure whether you're allowed to insert "not" between "enough" and "to".
i don't think that you are.
if anyone has seen a legitimate source in which this happens (i.e., "enough not to..."), please let us know.


hello Ron,
This SC has been thoroughly discussed in this post and thus leaves little room for more questions.
Just want to ask if one in D is also problematic for the following two reasons:
i) one is trying to stand for people
ii) pronoun one has no antecedent
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Re: Often major economic shifts are so gradual as to be...

by RonPurewal Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:31 am

the word "one" does not appear in choice D.
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Re: Often major economic shifts are so gradual as to be...

by aflaamM589 Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:47 am

RonPurewal Wrote:the word "one" does not appear in choice D.

Sorry for typo.
In E, i meant, apart from errors discussed.
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Re: Often major economic shifts are so gradual as to be...

by RonPurewal Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:02 pm

when "one" is used to mean "a random person", it doesn't need an antecedent.

THIS kind of "one" couldn't possibly have an antecedent, anyway -- the whole point is that it could refer to anyone at all.
when you are talking about antecedents, i think you're confusing this kind of "one" with a totally different kind of thing (e.g., This store has large bottles of my favorite soda in the cooler, so I will buy one for the drive.)
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Re: Often major economic shifts are so gradual as to be...

by littleb417 Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:51 am

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Re: Often major economic shifts are so gradual as to be...

by RonPurewal Sun Aug 21, 2016 4:03 pm

your last post was a problem from 1000SC, which is a banned source here (and you really, really, REALLY shouldn't use that source—there are issues with almost every single problem in that source, excepting only the ones stolen directly from GMAC sources).

please read the forum rules (top of the General Verbal folder) for banned sources BEFORE posting. thank you.
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Re: Often major economic shifts are so gradual as to be...

by RAHULS852 Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:42 am

RonPurewal Wrote:in general, "so [adj/adverb] that [complete sentence]" is used when "[complete sentence]" has a DIFFERENT SUBJECT than the original sentence.
e.g., When I came back from vacation, I was so tan that my friends didn't even recognize me.
(subject changes from "i" to "my friends")

if the subject is still the same, then "so [adj] as to [verb]" is a more efficient way to write the construction.

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Hi Sage/ Manhattan expert,

As per above highlighted portion, we can eliminate (C).
In (C) subject is same (economic shifts).

Kindly review my understanding.

I would like to ask one more question: How to decide between "so x as to y" and "x enough to y. I read in the explanation of a question that "so x as to y" is used when emphasis is on X and that "x enough to y" is used when emphasis is on Y.

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Re: Often major economic shifts are so gradual as to be...

by Sage Pearce-Higgins Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:18 pm

I think that Ron's point about the different subject is both contentious in general and unimportant for GMAT. It's the kind of nuance of meaning that may be interesting to consider, but may be a distraction from more significant issues. I would put knowing the difference between 'x enough to y' and 'so x as to y' in the same category.

A much more important thing to notice about C is the illogical meaning of 'they are unable'. Take a look at this post here: https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/foru ... ml#p132839
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Re: Often major economic shifts are so gradual as to be...

by RAHULS852 Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:21 pm

Thanks Sage for your reply.
In C more important issue is "ability of economic shifts".

I would put knowing the difference between 'x enough to y' and 'so x as to y' in the same category.

So this difference is not important. It means that I will not get any question where i need to select answer based on this difference.
Got your point about important issues.

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Re: Often major economic shifts are so gradual as to be...

by Sage Pearce-Higgins Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:25 pm

Good to hear that. Just to warn you: I can't guarantee that GMAT won't test that difference in the future, but, in my experience, it's the kind of nuance that is most likely to be a distraction from the more important issues.
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Re: Often major economic shifts are so gradual as to be...

by RAHULS852 Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:45 am

Ok
I can understand your cautious tone about nuance. In SC better to focus on important issues such as grammar and meaning.


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Re: Often major economic shifts are so gradual as to be...

by Sage Pearce-Higgins Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:37 am

Sure thing.