Earlier this year, Philip Delves Broughton, an HBS graduate (’06) and former New York and Paris Bureau Chief for the Daily Telegraph (London), caused a stir when he released a book detailing his experiences at HBS. In "Ahead of the Curve" Delves Broughton revealed both positive and negative sides of his experience at HBS, but drew attention because so many considered this to be a broad representative experience. Recently, we interviewed Delves Broughton to better understand his intentions and motivations as well as others’ reactions to his book.
The first part of our two part series follows below. We will publish the second part tomorrow.
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PART I
MBA Mission: You wrote a great deal at the beginning of your book about how powerful the Harvard Business School (HBS) network is, and now you’ve written a book that has clearly drawn the ire of many an HBS grad. Have you noticed a decrease in invitations to cocktail parties?
Delves Broughton: No, no, I’ve never worried about that. I’ve just got my fundraising letter, as usual, so that hasn’t stopped. No, I haven’t heard from anyone who is hostile- but I’ve had a lot of positive reaction, because this is the truth of it...There’s often this gap between what the institution says about itself and what it does and the way it behaves, along with the kind of attention and some of the ambitions of some of the human beings inside them...
My book isn’t an anti-business book, it’s [about] how do we make this work for us as people? How do we get away from the kind of rah-rah chest bumping/chest-beating kind of act we’re seeing so much in business? I think it’s alienating for a lot of people, even people who do well...
MBA Mission: Did you feel like your experience was shared by many or by few in your class?
Delves Broughton: You know it’s my experience, it isn’t anyone else’s, but I think a lot of people see pieces of themselves in it. Not everyone is me "” that’s fairly obvious. But I think a lot of people see that pressure to conform, it can be oppressive. A lot of people refer to the notion of I’m very lucky, I know this is a great thing to be doing, but yet there’s something that makes me uneasy about all this.
I’ve been really surprised at who gets back to me, and it’s not just all the liberal arts majors who like this book. I’ve had emails from Asian women immigrants who end up in business school, who in many ways are classic success stories. They read it and they say, You know what this is resonating with me because parts of pursuing success as defined by Harvard Business School make me feel very uncomfortable...You’ve got to have a sympathy or empathy towards it.
MBA Mission: Have you had any positive reaction from within HBS?
Delves Broughton: I’ve had emails from a lot of people in my classes. I’ve had email from people at the school, and you know people say the same things. They use the term "brutally honest." I’m not brutally honest, I just try to be honest, but I think it seems brutal because a lot of people aren’t very honest about this whole business school, the institution. People are kind of afraid to say, "I’m not going to tell the truth or talk about an experience like it isn’t 100% positive." Of course, the truth is very few experiences are, so why should all business school be 100% positive? My books accentuates that it’s about 75-80% positive and about 5% not so positive...
I think that an institution like Harvard Business School. . .essentiality the problem is that people either expect you to be 100% cheerleading for it, saying this place walks on water, or you have to be one of these people who likes kicking it. It’s very hard for people to see you as neither, and that’s what I am..
MBA Mission: Is HBS secure as an institution?
Delves Broughton: I think all business schools are insecure about one key question: can business actually be taught? It’s not like law or medicine where you need to go to school to succeed. So what is it they’re teaching? Do they have a place on a university campus? The other strange thing about HBS is that it often acts more like a corporation, fiercely protective of its image as if guarding a stock price, and less like an educational establishment, open to criticism and inquiry. Which is probably a sign of some kind of insecurity.
MBA Mission: You spend a lot of time discussing work life balance versus the intense demands of corporate America. Is balance an HBS problem or is this a problem of the world as it is today? Would balance issues not occur in any business school?
Delves Broughton: To an extent, yeah, and I hope that my book has kind of a broader resonance. I’m trying to describe through my experience. I know these problems exist for a lot of people, you’re right. Here’s the thing. It’s that I think writing about Harvard Business School is so interesting because here you have 900 people who essentially have all the choices in the world....These people in theory could pick and chose the life they want. In many ways they accept the fact that their personal lives are kind of going to have to go to hell... Why do the feel like that? I think that more people should stand up and say that they demand more out of their professional and personal lives. I sort of wish institutions like HBS were more aggressive about this.
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Yesterday, we posted the first part of a two part interview with Philip Delves Broughton, an HBS graduate (’06) who wrote the controversial book, "Ahead of the Curve." We interviewed Delves Broughton to better understand his intentions and motivations as well as others’ reactions to his book and are publishing the second part of the interview below:
PART II
MBA Mission: You poke fun at a few characters who take the HBS experience quite seriously. Is there room at HBS for such people?
Delves Broughton: Yes, of course. Business needs people who make things go. It can’t be run by a lot of cynical, artsy types. Business is serious and needs hard-driving, committed types. But I also think it needs people with perspective, who perceive the true nature of what it is they are doing, people who are capable of taking the right things seriously and possessing a complete sense of their responsibilities. When this is lacking, businesses can become alienating places both for employees and for the rest of society who must suffer the consequences of business’ excessively blinkered behavior.
MBA Mission: Should HBS have more Arthur Harveys (Note: Harvey is put forth as an incorruptible, anti-capitalist foil)?
Delves Broughton: I doubt Arthur would ever have cared to go to HBS. But yes, HBS could certainly use more people who see the way business operates from multiple perspectives, not just that of senior management. What does it mean when big food companies lobby government to loosen organic food regulations? It may be good news for food companies trying to exploit consumer interest in organic. But is it honest? Is it helpful to society? Is this even a decent long term business strategy? Or is it self-defeating? Businesses these days like to talk about listening to multiple stakeholders, but you wonder, do they really give a damn? Men like Harvey bring these issues into their proper perspective.
MBA Mission: What more would you like to have gotten out of Harvard Business School?
Well, the problem is that business people think that their way of doing things is best way. This message is a pretty strong one at Harvard Business School. When I went to business school, I went to learn about business. I didn’t want to be taught that it is my duty to go out and run the world. I wanted to be taught to run a business, which I think is perfectly worthwhile to do, and I wish they would have just stuck to that.
MBA Mission: When Harbus critiqued your book, the BMW line and the booze luge seemed to really draw their ire. (Note: Delves Broughton tells the story of a student who suggests that many students manipulate financial aid to buy luxury cars and also reveals a hard partying lifestyle via a "booze luge" at a party).
Delves Broughton: Well, it’s two pages of a 300 page book... I feel they’re being slightly Orwellian about this and it’s almost like a political campaign where you focus on minutiae to avoid discussing big issues. If you want to make a fuss about the BWW and the booze luge, which they’ve chosen to do, I include those things as part of the experience, which they were.
But you know no one wants to talk to me about Arthur, you’re the first person who’s asked me about Arthur Harvey. Or, you know, my discussion of Michal Porter’s 5 horses, [or] how business can be used in government and all these things, which the book is full of. Half of them never bothered to. . .they’ve never been in touch with me. Which, I don’t mind, but they’ve never bothered to engage on these things.
They never want to talk about work-life balance, they put out this message that I’m a sort of bitter grad of the school, you know, that I’m full of sour grapes. I’m absolutely not. I very much enjoyed, I’ve given money to the school in the past since graduating. I’m merely trying to do my own thing. I think it’s something they feel very uncomfortable with.... I think that an institution of that power and influence merits discussion and criticism and praise and all these things...
MBA Mission: So, HBS focuses too closely on these two sections and possibly shoots the messenger?
Delves Broughton: I’ve been a journalist, I know the way these things work... This is the truth: that they like to think it is a book about Harvard Business School, it has Harvard Business School on the cover, you can’t get away from that. But, you know what’s really interesting is when I’m talking to people for whom it’s just a name, they just couldn’t care less about the booze luge and the BMW. What they want to talk about is work-life balance, entrepreneurial living....They want to talk about the big things which really keep you going. How can I make buck and still see the people I love? How can I do something interesting in my life and not drop dead having bored myself to tears so I can pay the rent. There are the big things, and that’s what the book is really about...
PART II
MBA Mission: You poke fun at a few characters who take the HBS experience quite seriously. Is there room at HBS for such people?
Delves Broughton: Yes, of course. Business needs people who make things go. It can’t be run by a lot of cynical, artsy types. Business is serious and needs hard-driving, committed types. But I also think it needs people with perspective, who perceive the true nature of what it is they are doing, people who are capable of taking the right things seriously and possessing a complete sense of their responsibilities. When this is lacking, businesses can become alienating places both for employees and for the rest of society who must suffer the consequences of business’ excessively blinkered behavior.
MBA Mission: Should HBS have more Arthur Harveys (Note: Harvey is put forth as an incorruptible, anti-capitalist foil)?
Delves Broughton: I doubt Arthur would ever have cared to go to HBS. But yes, HBS could certainly use more people who see the way business operates from multiple perspectives, not just that of senior management. What does it mean when big food companies lobby government to loosen organic food regulations? It may be good news for food companies trying to exploit consumer interest in organic. But is it honest? Is it helpful to society? Is this even a decent long term business strategy? Or is it self-defeating? Businesses these days like to talk about listening to multiple stakeholders, but you wonder, do they really give a damn? Men like Harvey bring these issues into their proper perspective.
MBA Mission: What more would you like to have gotten out of Harvard Business School?
Well, the problem is that business people think that their way of doing things is best way. This message is a pretty strong one at Harvard Business School. When I went to business school, I went to learn about business. I didn’t want to be taught that it is my duty to go out and run the world. I wanted to be taught to run a business, which I think is perfectly worthwhile to do, and I wish they would have just stuck to that.
MBA Mission: When Harbus critiqued your book, the BMW line and the booze luge seemed to really draw their ire. (Note: Delves Broughton tells the story of a student who suggests that many students manipulate financial aid to buy luxury cars and also reveals a hard partying lifestyle via a "booze luge" at a party).
Delves Broughton: Well, it’s two pages of a 300 page book... I feel they’re being slightly Orwellian about this and it’s almost like a political campaign where you focus on minutiae to avoid discussing big issues. If you want to make a fuss about the BWW and the booze luge, which they’ve chosen to do, I include those things as part of the experience, which they were.
But you know no one wants to talk to me about Arthur, you’re the first person who’s asked me about Arthur Harvey. Or, you know, my discussion of Michal Porter’s 5 horses, [or] how business can be used in government and all these things, which the book is full of. Half of them never bothered to. . .they’ve never been in touch with me. Which, I don’t mind, but they’ve never bothered to engage on these things.
They never want to talk about work-life balance, they put out this message that I’m a sort of bitter grad of the school, you know, that I’m full of sour grapes. I’m absolutely not. I very much enjoyed, I’ve given money to the school in the past since graduating. I’m merely trying to do my own thing. I think it’s something they feel very uncomfortable with.... I think that an institution of that power and influence merits discussion and criticism and praise and all these things...
MBA Mission: So, HBS focuses too closely on these two sections and possibly shoots the messenger?
Delves Broughton: I’ve been a journalist, I know the way these things work... This is the truth: that they like to think it is a book about Harvard Business School, it has Harvard Business School on the cover, you can’t get away from that. But, you know what’s really interesting is when I’m talking to people for whom it’s just a name, they just couldn’t care less about the booze luge and the BMW. What they want to talk about is work-life balance, entrepreneurial living....They want to talk about the big things which really keep you going. How can I make buck and still see the people I love? How can I do something interesting in my life and not drop dead having bored myself to tears so I can pay the rent. There are the big things, and that’s what the book is really about...
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