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If Q is a positive integer less than 17

by Milanproda1 Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:40 pm

If q is a positive integer less than 17 and r is the remainder when 17 is divided by q, what is the value of r?

1- Q>10

2- Q= 2^k, where k is a positive integer











OA is C.


Statement 2- Q can be:

k 2^k Q 17/Q R<--Target
1 2^1 2 17/2 1
2 2^2 4 17/4 1
3 2^3 8 17/8 1
4 2^4 16 17/16 1


So why do we need Statement 1?
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Re: If Q is a positive integer less than 17

by RonPurewal Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:54 am

Milanproda Wrote:If q is a positive integer less than 17 and r is the remainder when 17 is divided by q, what is the value of r?

1- Q>10

2- Q= 2^k, where k is a positive integer











OA is C.


Statement 2- Q can be:

k 2^k Q 17/Q R<--Target
1 2^1 2 17/2 1
2 2^2 4 17/4 1
3 2^3 8 17/8 1
4 2^4 16 17/16 1


So why do we need Statement 1?


you are right; the answer should be (b), not (c).
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Re: If Q is a positive integer less than 17

by aimhier Wed May 15, 2013 6:07 am

Hi Ron,

in statement 2, why can't "Q= 2^k' go higher than 17, say when K=5, Q=32, so when 17/32, we get 0 and remainder of 17, making the statement 2 alone not sufficient, thus making the C correct answer.
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Re: If Q is a positive integer less than 17

by rihanna.hayat Wed May 15, 2013 7:17 am

aimhier Wrote:Hi Ron,

in statement 2, why can't "Q= 2^k' go higher than 17, say when K=5, Q=32, so when 17/32, we get 0 and remainder of 17, making the statement 2 alone not sufficient, thus making the C correct answer.



Hi,

The answer will be B.
'Q=2^k' cannot be higher than 17 because it is already mentioned in the question "If Q is a positive integer less than 17". So the maximum value of Q will be 16.
And since remainder in all cases (Q = 2, 4, 8, 16) is 1, hence the answer is B.
Hope that helps.
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Re: If Q is a positive integer less than 17

by jyothi h Wed May 15, 2013 5:27 pm

RonPurewal Wrote:
Milanproda Wrote:If q is a positive integer less than 17 and r is the remainder when 17 is divided by q, what is the value of r?

1- Q>10

2- Q= 2^k, where k is a positive integer











OA is C.


Statement 2- Q can be:

k 2^k Q 17/Q R<--Target
1 2^1 2 17/2 1
2 2^2 4 17/4 1
3 2^3 8 17/8 1
4 2^4 16 17/16 1


So why do we need Statement 1?


you are right; the answer should be (b), not (c).



What about the case when k=0 , the remander 17/2^0 is 0 right ?
I thought we need statement A to rule out k=0 where q becomes 1.
kindly, correct me if am missing something.

Thanks,
Jyothi
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Re: If Q is a positive integer less than 17

by rihanna.hayat Thu May 16, 2013 12:07 am

HI Jyothi,

K cannot be zero, as it is mentioned in condition 2 " k is positive integer".

so minimum value of k can be 1.

Also in GMAT, as far as i know, Zero is always considered as an even integer and neither +ve or -ve.
Correct me guys if I am wrong.

Thanks
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Re: If Q is a positive integer less than 17

by RonPurewal Thu May 16, 2013 4:57 am

yeah. 0 is not a positive integer.
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Re: If Q is a positive integer less than 17

by jyothi h Thu May 16, 2013 8:27 am

rihanna.hayat Wrote:HI Jyothi,

K cannot be zero, as it is mentioned in condition 2 " k is positive integer".

so minimum value of k can be 1.

Also in GMAT, as far as i know, Zero is always considered as an even integer and neither +ve or -ve.
Correct me guys if I am wrong.

Thanks



Oh I get it. I do not know why I had this in my head that zero is positive and that remember reading it somewhere. Now that I read your post , it might have said "even integer" and when I was working out the problem , I confused even to positive.Such a silly mistake.
Thank you for clarifying.

-Jyothi
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Re: If Q is a positive integer less than 17

by josesav7 Thu May 16, 2013 3:58 pm

I see why B would be the right answer, but was the OA marked as C? If so, then won't B be considered wrong according to them?
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Re: If Q is a positive integer less than 17

by jlucero Thu May 16, 2013 4:02 pm

josesav7 Wrote:I see why B would be the right answer, but was the OA marked as C? If so, then won't B be considered wrong according to them?


Either the original post was mistyped or it's not from GMAT Prep. The answer here is definitely (B).

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