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If eleven consecutive integers are listed from least to

by sharmin.karim Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:04 pm

If eleven consecutive integers are listed from least to greatest, what is the average (arithmetic mean) of the eleven integers?

1. The average of the first nine integers is 7
2. The average of the last nine integers is 9
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Re: If eleven consecutive integers are listed from least to

by nitin_prakash_khanna Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:20 pm

The only fundamental we need to remember is that for a equally spaced set , if the total number of items are odd then mean = median.

Consecutive numbers are a special case of equally spaced set.

So for 11 conscutive integers 6th number is the median so it will be the mean.

St1. the mean of first 9 integers is 7, which tells that the 5th number is 7, you know 5th number so you know 6th number is 8.

So avg of 11 numbers is 8.

SUFFICIENT.

St.2 In this list of 9 numbers mean is 9 so median = 9.
this is 7th number of original list so 6th number is 8. Which is the median = mean.

SUFFICIENT

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Re: If eleven consecutive integers are listed from least to

by Ben Ku Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:54 am

Nitin did a great job of explaining it.

Sharmin: it would be helpful to write a bit of explanation about how you got to your answer, or where you got stuck. THen we can respond to your confusion directly.

The key to this problem is knowing that when we have an odd number of consecutive integers, the mean = median. So the question can be rephrased: "what is the 6th integer"?

Statement (1) is a set of the first nine integers, so the mean = median = 7 = 5th integer. Well, the 6th integer then is 8, so (1) is sufficient.

If eleven consecutive integers are listed from least to greatest, what is the average (arithmetic mean) of the eleven integers?

You can use the same reasoning to determine that (2) is also sufficient.
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Re: If eleven consecutive integers are listed from least to

by mohit_cs2002 Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:02 pm

good job
I might me asking a silly question. If no interval of the consecutive numbers is mentioned, we can assume as 1???
Can we call the series as consecutive no.s : 2,5,8,11 (interval 3)
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Re: If eleven consecutive integers are listed from least to

by Ben Ku Thu Dec 24, 2009 4:08 pm

Hi Mohit,

Yes, "consecutive integers" means the numbers are separated by one. "consecutive even" or "consecutive odd" means the numbers are separated by two.
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Re: If eleven consecutive integers are listed from least to

by mindadze Fri May 20, 2011 8:13 am

Ben Ku Wrote:Nitin did a great job of explaining it.

Sharmin: it would be helpful to write a bit of explanation about how you got to your answer, or where you got stuck. THen we can respond to your confusion directly.

The key to this problem is knowing that when we have an odd number of consecutive integers, the mean = median. So the question can be rephrased: "what is the 6th integer"?

Statement (1) is a set of the first nine integers, so the mean = median = 7 = 5th integer. Well, the 6th integer then is 8, so (1) is sufficient.

If eleven consecutive integers are listed from least to greatest, what is the average (arithmetic mean) of the eleven integers?

You can use the same reasoning to determine that (2) is also sufficient.


Hi,

Know this is an old post but I am very curious. Question to Ben Ku:
Why should we have only ODD number of consecutive integers to say that mean=median in a consecutive list of integers?

I think it works for EVEN number of consecutive integers as well. E.g. 1,2,3,4,5,6 (in total 6 integers).
Mean=(1+6)/2=3.5 [in consecutive list of integers, mean equals (1st number+last number)/2]
Median=(3+4)/2=3.5

Thanks for clarifying.
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Re: If eleven consecutive integers are listed from least to

by RonPurewal Sat May 21, 2011 4:23 am

mindadze Wrote:Know this is an old post but I am very curious. Question to Ben Ku:
Why should we have only ODD number of consecutive integers to say that mean=median in a consecutive list of integers?

I think it works for EVEN number of consecutive integers as well. E.g. 1,2,3,4,5,6 (in total 6 integers).
Mean=(1+6)/2=3.5 [in consecutive list of integers, mean equals (1st number+last number)/2]
Median=(3+4)/2=3.5

Thanks for clarifying.


that's true as well.
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Re: If eleven consecutive integers are listed from least to

by rachelhong2012 Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:10 pm

If eleven consecutive integers are listed from least to greatest, what is the average (arithmetic mean) of the eleven integers?

1. The average of the first nine integers is 7
2. The average of the last nine integers is 9

x x+1 x+2 x+3 x+4 x+5 x+6 x+7 x+8 x+9 x+10

average= sum of these numbers (all in terms of x)/11
if we know x, we can solve for average

1. since everything is in terms of x, if we know the relationship between one variable and one constant, we can solve for the variable x, suff
try it yourself
(x+x+1+x+2+x+3+x+4+x+5+x+6+x+7+x+8)/9=7
you can solve for x

2. same idea, when we only have one variable and one constant, we can solve for the variable x. suff.

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Re: If eleven consecutive integers are listed from least to

by RonPurewal Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:56 am

that's a legitimate algebraic way to do the problem, yes.

however, it's also important to develop a conceptual intuition for this one, because that kind of algebra will get really annoying if there are even a few more integers than the eleven that we have here.
here's what i'm getting at: these are CONSECUTIVE integers. therefore, if we know any of the following --
* the position of the first integer
* the position of the last integer
* the position of ANY particular integer (e.g., "the fourth integer is -2")
-- then we know the position of the entire sequence.
this is an observation that generalizes effortlessly to any number of consecutive integers, even if there are thousands or millions of them.
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Re: If eleven consecutive integers are listed from least to

by jeffrey.k.l.ho Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:00 pm

Hi there,

I was doing this question and someone how I recall somewhere about a rule/concept that I would like clarification on.

If an n is given (n being the number of consecutive integers) and the sum for these consecutive integers is given, there is only ONE set of consecutive integers that will fit the sum?

for instance, given n=3 sum = 12, there is only one set of consecutive integers that will fit this, which is 3, 4, 5.
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Re: If eleven consecutive integers are listed from least to

by tim Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:23 am

there is never more than one set that fits the bill, but in some cases there is no such set of numbers. consider n=4 and sum=12 for instance..
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Re: If eleven consecutive integers are listed from least to

by nowwithgmat Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:50 pm

for 11 consecutive integer average is
let n first term
and n+10 is the last i.e 11th term
so ave: n+n+10/2=n+5

now st-1
first 9 integer average is 7 so
n+n+8/2=7 >>>>>n+4=7 >>>>n =3
so suff..

and st-2
ave of last 9 integer is
n+2+n+10 /2=9 >>> n=3

suff

so D winn...
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Re: If eleven consecutive integers are listed from least to

by RonPurewal Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:01 am

tim Wrote:there is never more than one set that fits the bill, but in some cases there is no such set of numbers. consider n=4 and sum=12 for instance..


this is correct.

on the other hand, remember that you won't have to worry about this kind of situation on data sufficiency.
each DS statement will have either ...
... exactly one solution, or
... multiple solutions.
there will be no impossible statements in DS.