Math problems from the *free* official practice tests and
problems from mba.com
trang.kieu.phung
Students
 
Posts: 14
Joined: Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:24 am
 

If c and d are integers, is c even? GMATPrep - DS

by trang.kieu.phung Wed Sep 08, 2010 4:47 am

If c and d are integers, is c even?
(1) c(d + 1) is even
(2) (c + 2)(d + 4) is even

My approach:
From (1): there are 3 cases:
A. c is even and (d + 1) is even
B. c is even and (d + 1) is odd
C. c is odd and (d + 1) is even
----> insufficient

From (2): 3 cases:
A. both (c + 2) and (d + 4) are even
B. (c + 2) is even and (d + 4) is odd
C. (c + 2) is odd and (d + 4) is even
-----> insufficient

From (1) and (2):
c(d + 1) is even ---> cd + c = 2n (k is an integer) (**)
(c + 2)(d + 4) is even ---> cd + 4c + 2d + 8 = 2m (*)
(*) - (**): 3c + 2(d + 4) = 2(m - n)
---> c = [2(m - n) - 2(d + 4)]/3
-----> insufficient

I chose E but the OA is C.

Could you explain how to combine (1) and (2) can make c even by algebraic approach? (not by picking numbers)
Thanks in advance!
gokul_nair1984
Students
 
Posts: 170
Joined: Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:07 am
 

Re: If c and d are integers, is c even? GMATPrep - DS

by gokul_nair1984 Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:05 am

Combining both Statements, we get:
1. cd+c=Even
2. cd+4c+2d+8=Even

By analyzing statement 2 we can see that, 4c and 2d have to be even in nature( since they are being multiplied by an even number). Furthermore, 8 is also even and we also know that
even +even+even=EVEN
Therefore, Statement 2 can be rephrased as
cd+Even=Even.
This means that cd has to be even(Even+Even=Even).

Substituting this information in Statement 1, we get,
Even+c=Even. This shows that c has to be even under any circumstance.
Hence the answer is C

Hope this helps
trang.kieu.phung
Students
 
Posts: 14
Joined: Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:24 am
 

Re: If c and d are integers, is c even? GMATPrep - DS

by trang.kieu.phung Wed Sep 08, 2010 11:27 pm

gokul_nair1984 Wrote:Combining both Statements, we get:
1. cd+c=Even
2. cd+4c+2d+8=Even

By analyzing statement 2 we can see that, 4c and 2d have to be even in nature( since they are being multiplied by an even number). Furthermore, 8 is also even and we also know that
even +even+even=EVEN
Therefore, Statement 2 can be rephrased as
cd+Even=Even.
This means that cd has to be even(Even+Even=Even).

Substituting this information in Statement 1, we get,
Even+c=Even. This shows that c has to be even under any circumstance.
Hence the answer is C

Hope this helps


I like your approach, very clear and simple.
Thank you :)

I think I can use this method to solve the last equation:
3c + 2(d + 4) = 2(n - m)
That means: 3c + even = even ---> 3c must be even ---> c is even
gokul_nair1984
Students
 
Posts: 170
Joined: Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:07 am
 

Re: If c and d are integers, is c even? GMATPrep - DS

by gokul_nair1984 Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:29 am

trang.kieu.phung Wrote:I think I can use this method to solve the last equation:
3c + 2(d + 4) = 2(n - m)
That means: 3c + even = even ---> 3c must be even ---> c is even


Yes you can :)
tejkumar.m
Students
 
Posts: 14
Joined: Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:49 am
 

Re: If c and d are integers, is c even? GMATPrep - DS

by tejkumar.m Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:11 am

If c and d are integers, is c even?
(1) c(d + 1) is even
(2) (c + 2)(d + 4) is even

A product is even only in the below two cases:

Even * Even = Even
Even * odd = Even

Statement -1 :

Worst case is Even * Odd

Either C is even and (d+1) is odd or
C is odd and (d+1) even

Not Sufficient to answer

Either C is even and (d+1) is odd or
C is odd and (d+1) even

Statement -2 :

Worst case is Even * Odd

Either C+2 is even and (d+4) is odd or ==> C is even
C+2 is odd and (d+4) even ==> C is odd

Not sufficient to answer

Take both statements together-->

Consider C is odd

Statement -1 becomes (d+1) is even ==> d is odd
Statment -2 , C odd and d is odd which does NOT conclude to (c+2) * (d+4) = Odd... Because odd * odd = odd

Consider C is even

Statement -1 becomes (d+1) is odd ==> d is even
Statment -2 , C even and d is even which MUST conclude to (c+2) * (d+4) = even... Because even * even = Even..

Hope this is understandable.

Regards
RonPurewal
Students
 
Posts: 19744
Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:23 am
 

Re: If c and d are integers, is c even? GMATPrep - DS

by RonPurewal Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:45 am

the problem here is that you aren't SIMPLIFYING the cases that you're getting out of the statements.
if you have a statement about even/odd with something like x + 3, x - 1, etc., you can ALWAYS translate that into a statement about even/odd with x itself.

From (1): there are 3 cases:
A. c is even and (d + 1) is even
B. c is even and (d + 1) is odd
C. c is odd and (d + 1) is even

translated:
(a) c = even, d = odd
(b) c = even, d = even
(c) c = odd, d = odd
insufficient.

From (2): 3 cases:
A. both (c + 2) and (d + 4) are even
B. (c + 2) is even and (d + 4) is odd
C. (c + 2) is odd and (d + 4) is even

translated:
(a) c = even, d = even
(b) c = even, d = odd
(c) c = odd, d = even
insufficient.

combine them:
the only cases that exist in both statements are
* c = even, d = even
* c = even, d = odd
so, c must be even.
sufficient
(c)

--

re: this
From (1) and (2):
c(d + 1) is even ---> cd + c = 2n (k is an integer) (**)
(c + 2)(d + 4) is even ---> cd + 4c + 2d + 8 = 2m (*)
(*) - (**): 3c + 2(d + 4) = 2(m - n)
---> c = [2(m - n) - 2(d + 4)]/3


um ... wow

if you find yourself doing something like this, EVER, then you should quit immediately -- if you are doing this much busy work, then the train has already gone off the rails a long time ago, and you should therefore give up and start doing a number-picking method.
vicksikand
Students
 
Posts: 38
Joined: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:54 am
Location: Texas
 

Re: If c and d are integers, is c even? GMATPrep - DS

by vicksikand Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:34 am

I dont know if this is the quickest method , but here it is anyways:
1. c(d+1) = E
put d=odd number , hence c=E or O N.S
2. (c+2)(d+4)= E
put d=even , hence c= E or O N.S
1 &2
simplify 2:
cd+(4c+2d+8)=E.....Part in brackets will always be Even
thus: cd = E-E=E
we have
c(d+1)=E
cd=E
possible only if c is even.

C
jnelson0612
ManhattanGMAT Staff
 
Posts: 2664
Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:57 am
 

Re: If c and d are integers, is c even? GMATPrep - DS

by jnelson0612 Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:14 pm

vicksikand, very interesting approach. I've walked through it and I can't fault any of it. I think Ron's approach is quite quick too.

Nice work.
Jamie Nelson
ManhattanGMAT Instructor
AbhilashM94
Students
 
Posts: 53
Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:26 am
 

Re: If c and d are integers, is c even? GMATPrep - DS

by AbhilashM94 Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:55 am

RonPurewal Wrote:the problem here is that you aren't SIMPLIFYING the cases that you're getting out of the statements.
if you have a statement about even/odd with something like x + 3, x - 1, etc., you can ALWAYS translate that into a statement about even/odd with x itself.

From (1): there are 3 cases:
A. c is even and (d + 1) is even
B. c is even and (d + 1) is odd
C. c is odd and (d + 1) is even

translated:
(a) c = even, d = odd
(b) c = even, d = even
(c) c = odd, d = odd
insufficient.

From (2): 3 cases:
A. both (c + 2) and (d + 4) are even
B. (c + 2) is even and (d + 4) is odd
C. (c + 2) is odd and (d + 4) is even

translated:
(a) c = even, d = even
(b) c = even, d = odd
(c) c = odd, d = even
insufficient.

combine them:
the only cases that exist in both statements are
* c = even, d = even
* c = even, d = odd
so, c must be even.
sufficient
(c)

--

re: this
From (1) and (2):
c(d + 1) is even ---> cd + c = 2n (k is an integer) (**)
(c + 2)(d + 4) is even ---> cd + 4c + 2d + 8 = 2m (*)
(*) - (**): 3c + 2(d + 4) = 2(m - n)
---> c = [2(m - n) - 2(d + 4)]/3


um ... wow

if you find yourself doing something like this, EVER, then you should quit immediately -- if you are doing this much busy work, then the train has already gone off the rails a long time ago, and you should therefore give up and start doing a number-picking method.



c = odd, d = odd work with both statements as well!
tim
Course Students
 
Posts: 5665
Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:08 am
Location: Southwest Airlines, seat 21C
 

Re: If c and d are integers, is c even? GMATPrep - DS

by tim Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:25 pm

Please let us know if you have a question here.
Tim Sanders
Manhattan GMAT Instructor

Follow this link for some important tips to get the most out of your forum experience:
https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/forums/a-few-tips-t31405.html
AbhilashM94
Students
 
Posts: 53
Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:26 am
 

Re: If c and d are integers, is c even? GMATPrep - DS

by AbhilashM94 Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:58 pm

tim Wrote:Please let us know if you have a question here.


c = odd, d = odd works with both statements.

So combining both c = odd & c= even prove conclusively that c is even?
tim
Course Students
 
Posts: 5665
Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:08 am
Location: Southwest Airlines, seat 21C
 

Re: If c and d are integers, is c even? GMATPrep - DS

by tim Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:48 pm

Your statement is false; can you explain the reasoning that led you there so we can help you further?

Your question makes no sense; what does it even mean to combine "both c = odd & c= even"?
Tim Sanders
Manhattan GMAT Instructor

Follow this link for some important tips to get the most out of your forum experience:
https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/forums/a-few-tips-t31405.html
RonPurewal
Students
 
Posts: 19744
Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:23 am
 

Re: If c and d are integers, is c even? GMATPrep - DS

by RonPurewal Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:35 am

If both c and d are odd, statement 2 cannot possibly be true.

Odd + 2 and odd + 4 are still odd. Odd times odd is odd.
AbhilashM94
Students
 
Posts: 53
Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:26 am
 

Re: If c and d are integers, is c even? GMATPrep - DS

by AbhilashM94 Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:38 am

RonPurewal Wrote:If both c and d are odd, statement 2 cannot possibly be true.

Odd + 2 and odd + 4 are still odd. Odd times odd is odd.


Yes, you are right. I goofed up my first grade math :(
tim
Course Students
 
Posts: 5665
Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:08 am
Location: Southwest Airlines, seat 21C
 

Re: If c and d are integers, is c even? GMATPrep - DS

by tim Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:04 am

The GMAT writes a lot of problems that try to exploit our tendency to speed through "first grade math", so this is all the more reason to be very careful on those types of calculations! :)
Tim Sanders
Manhattan GMAT Instructor

Follow this link for some important tips to get the most out of your forum experience:
https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/forums/a-few-tips-t31405.html