GMATPrep SC: Unlike psychiatrists, who are trained as medica

[bangu]

Unlike psychiatrists, who are trained as medical doctors, [u]psychologists have historically been forbidden from prescribing their patients drugs, but in 2002 New Mexico began to grant the privilege of prescribing[/u] to licensed, doctoral level psychologists who complete an additional training and certification program.

A. psychologists have historically been forbidden from prescribing their patients drugs, but in 2002 New Mexico began to grant the privilege of prescribing
B. psychologists have historically been forbidden to prescribe drugs for their patients, but in 2002 New Mexico began granting prescribing privileges
C. psychologists have historically been forbidden to prescribe their patients drugs, but in 2002 in New Mexico, the privilege to prescribe began to be granted
D. historically psychologists have been forbidden from prescribing their patients drugs, but in 2002 New Mexico began to grant the privilege of prescribing
E. historically psychologists have been forbidden from prescribing drugs for their patients, but in 2002 in New Mexico, they began granting prescribing privileges

I agree with the answer and zeroed in on correct answer. However, my question is what are correct usage of "forbidden from" and "forbidden to do".

[RonPurewal]

Unlike psychiatrists, who are trained as medical doctors, psychologists have historically been forbidden from prescribing their patients drugs, but in 2002 New Mexico began to grant the privilege of prescribing to licensed, doctoral level psychologists who complete an additional training and certification program.

A. psychologists have historically been forbidden from prescribing their patients drugs, but in 2002 New Mexico began to grant the privilege of prescribing
B. psychologists have historically been forbidden to prescribe drugs for their patients, but in 2002 New Mexico began granting prescribing privileges
C. psychologists have historically been forbidden to prescribe their patients drugs, but in 2002 in New Mexico, the privilege to prescribe began to be granted
D. historically psychologists have been forbidden from prescribing their patients drugs, but in 2002 New Mexico began to grant the privilege of prescribing
E. historically psychologists have been forbidden from prescribing drugs for their patients, but in 2002 in New Mexico, they began granting prescribing privileges

I agree with the answer and zeroed in on correct answer. However, my question is what are correct usage of "forbidden from" and "forbidden to do".

you should post the official answer when you post problems; thanks in advance for doing so.
i'll assume that the official answer to this problem is (b).

* "forbid ... to" is more or less universally preferred to "forbid ... from" in formal written english, so i would assume that the gmat will follow the same preference.

a couple of other points:
* "prescribe drugs for their patients" is much better than "prescribe their patients drugs" (which would be fine in spoken language, but is at best awkward and at worst ambiguous when written)
* "prescribing privileges" is better than "the privilege to prescribe / privilege of prescribing", especially if the latter is placed at the end of the underlined part (as it is in choice a). the problem with the wording in choices (a) and (d) is that it's ambiguous: "...the privilege of prescribing to ... psychologists" could be taken to mean that the prescriptions themselves are being written for psychologists.

[bangu]

OA is B. Thanks for the reply.

[jwinawer]

Thanks.

[cesar.rodriguez.blanco]

Is the correct to say "granting prescribing"???
I do not remember exactly the question, but there was another that said that "2 consecutive -ing forms" is akward....

[RonPurewal]

Is the correct to say "granting prescribing"???
I do not remember exactly the question, but there was another that said that "2 consecutive -ing forms" is akward....

here "prescribing privileges" is a single construction, in which "prescribing" is an ADJECTIVE, so it's ok.

i remember the problem you're talking about; it said something like "Following declining for a few years, ..."
you shouldn't use a participle followed by a gerund; that's awkward.

on the other hand, this construction is like giving greeting cards to your friends (notice that "greeting cards" is a single construction, in which "greeting" is an adjective.)
that's ok.

[manish1sinha]

I am finding " 2002 New Mexico" a bit awkward.Please help me understand the structure.
"(B) psychologists have historically been forbidden to prescribe drugs for their patients, but in 2002 New Mexico began granting prescribing privileges"

Thanks :)

[RonPurewal]

I am finding " 2002 New Mexico" a bit awkward.Please help me understand the structure.
"(B) psychologists have historically been forbidden to prescribe drugs for their patients, but in 2002 New Mexico began granting prescribing privileges"

Thanks :)

you are parsing that structure incorrectly.
"in 2002" is a prepositional phrase describing the time at which the following action occurred. "New Mexico" is the subject of the following clause, which describes the action that took place in 2002.

analogy:
in 1994 i graduated from high school.
same structure.

[petro.kit]

Ron, thank you for explanations , you are the best tutor I have ever seen since I am preparing for the GMAT.

"but in 2002 New Mexico began granting prescribing privileges

My question , if New Mexico is subject, then how does <city> began granting ?! it is neither an authority or a person who have the right to give such permissions.

Please help.

thanks

[mschwrtz]

A state can grant X, a city can approve Y, a county can deny Z, etc. In these cases we suppose not that a geographical area is acting, but that a government is acting.

Oh, and New Mexico is a state, by the way. No geography questions on the GMAT, so don't sweat it.

[st_t_sv]

Hi,

Just another question here.
"granting prescribing previlages"-'prescribing' is a ING participle but prescribing does not happens by itself. What i am saying is prescribing is not the rt participle. Right participle for prescribe would be 'ED' form that does not suits to this scentence.

Adding to that, 'granting' is a gerund here. Am i right?

Help Please.

Thanks...

[RonPurewal]

Hi,

Just another question here.
"granting prescribing previlages"-'prescribing' is a ING participle but prescribing does not happens by itself. What i am saying is prescribing is not the rt participle.

in the construction "prescribing privileges", "prescribing" is used as an adjective that modifies "privileges".
this construction is grammatically identical to, say, "bragging rights" (which doesn't mean that the rights themselves are bragging!)

[pawanugt]

Hi Ron

I was searching for the correct usage of "Forbid".

I understand that forbid X to Y is perfect. However is it possible for an entity to forbid an action ?

Eg : The new rule forbids the sale of tobacco.

I believe on only two sources. One, GMAC and the other Manhattan.

Please help me.

Regard
Pawan

[RonPurewal]

I understand that forbid X to Y is perfect. However is it possible for an entity to forbid an action ?

Eg : The new rule forbids the sale of tobacco.

yes.

[healthy312]

Unlike psychiatrists, who are trained as medical doctors, psychologists have historically been forbidden from prescribing their patients drugs, but in 2002 New Mexico began to grant the privilege of prescribing to licensed, doctoral level psychologists who complete an additional training and certification program.

A. psychologists have historically been forbidden from prescribing their patients drugs, but in 2002 New Mexico began to grant the privilege of prescribing
B. psychologists have historically been forbidden to prescribe drugs for their patients, but in 2002 New Mexico began granting prescribing privileges
C. psychologists have historically been forbidden to prescribe their patients drugs, but in 2002 in New Mexico, the privilege to prescribe began to be granted
D. historically psychologists have been forbidden from prescribing their patients drugs, but in 2002 New Mexico began to grant the privilege of prescribing
E. historically psychologists have been forbidden from prescribing drugs for their patients, but in 2002 in New Mexico, they began granting prescribing privileges

I agree with the answer and zeroed in on correct answer. However, my question is what are correct usage of "forbidden from" and "forbidden to do".

you should post the official answer when you post problems; thanks in advance for doing so.
i'll assume that the official answer to this problem is (b).

* "forbid ... to" is more or less universally preferred to "forbid ... from" in formal written english, so i would assume that the gmat will follow the same preference.

a couple of other points:
* "prescribe drugs for their patients" is much better than "prescribe their patients drugs" (which would be fine in spoken language, but is at best awkward and at worst ambiguous when written)
* "prescribing privileges" is better than "the privilege to prescribe / privilege of prescribing", especially if the latter is placed at the end of the underlined part (as it is in choice a). the problem with the wording in choices (a) and (d) is that it's ambiguous: "...the privilege of prescribing to ... psychologists" could be taken to mean that the prescriptions themselves are being written for psychologists.

Ron, could you please advise how to eliminate C ? Many thanks!