Gmat Prep Verbal Sentence Correction

[WenT360]

Hi Ron,

I noticed some other differences between A and B , wondering whether they are points to split.

A , Whereas lines of competition ……, …… they are……
B, Although the lines of competition……, they are……

the difference between the boldface parts above is “the”， as both sentences have they ,the pronoun, that refers back to the antecedent. For A, they means lines of competition, a broad concept; while for B ,they refers to the lines of competition, exactly the same lines in the more established industry. However, based of the meaning , they are not the same lines , but they are lines of different industry.

Is that works?

[RonPurewal]

for this exam, you will NEVER be required to judge the usage of 'a', 'an', and/or 'the'.

for that reason, it's unwise to discuss that usage at all on this forum, because any such discussion will have negative value (significant distraction).

also, it's strange that you would mention 'the lines...' versus 'lines...'—but not 'the ... industries' versus 'industries...' (in the same two choices!).
of course, the point is that you shouldn't be paying attention to either of these differences... but i just found it interesting that you picked out one, but not the other, even though they're the same kind of difference.

[KathyL227]

i'm confused. is anyone saying the answer is something other than A?

Hi Ron,

The OA is B.

In my understanding, the problem with A lines in "more established industries", which implies more industries, not industries that are more established.
B doesn't have the problem.

[RonPurewal]

you didn't read the thread, hmm.

please go back and read the thread. the problem with that choice is explained in my first post (third from the top).

"more established industries" is not a problem. (it's clear that 'more' is meant to modify 'established'.)

[KathyL227]

you didn't read the thread, hmm.

please go back and read the thread. the problem with that choice is explained in my first post (third from the top).

"more established industries" is not a problem. (it's clear that 'more' is meant to modify 'established'.)

Ron,

I read all the threads there, but didn't find you talk about "more established industries". Only "one day", could you quote that there?

Thanks.

[RonPurewal]

you are correct; i didn't talk about "more established industries", because, as i wrote in the previous post...

"more established industries" is not a problem. (it's clear that 'more' is meant to modify 'established'.)

[CrystalSpringston]

you are correct; i didn't talk about "more established industries", because, as i wrote in the previous post...

"more established industries" is not a problem. (it's clear that 'more' is meant to modify 'established'.)

Hi RON,
I'd like to know whether "industries that are more established" is also acceptable in B?
I feel it is less concise than "more established industries"
These similiar constructions always anoy me. Some underly a split, such as the construction mentioned previously "competing companies" and " and "companies that compete". But some are both fine.

Thank you

[RonPurewal]

i'm confused. is anyone saying the answer is something other than A?

Hi Ron,

The OA is B.

no, it's not.

[RonPurewal]

I'd like to know whether "industries that are more established" is also acceptable in B?

it's not wrong.
as i mentioned in post #7 on the first page, there is no problem with the beginning of choice B. please read the entire discussion thread.

[RonPurewal]

I feel it is less concise than "more established industries"
These similiar constructions always anoy me. Some underly a split, such as the construction mentioned previously "competing companies" and " and "companies that compete". But some are both fine.

okay... but notice that 'slightly more concise vs. slightly less concise' is relevant in NEITHER instance.
if you're thinking about something like that ... you should probably think about something else.

if you notice a BIG, OBVIOUS difference of this kind—i.e., one choice is MUCH more efficiently written than another—then you can probably rely on it.
if the difference is not VERY BIG and VERY OBVIOUS, though, you should simply ignore it unless you need some sort of guessing method.

[MaggieW980]

I'd like to know whether "industries that are more established" is also acceptable in B?

it's not wrong.
as i mentioned in post #7 on the first page, there is no problem with the beginning of choice B. please read the entire discussion thread.

Hi, ron!
I read the entire discussion thread.
But I am still confused about " which part of the sentence is modified by 'one day' "?
In my opinion，it modifier neither ‘’compete‘’ （compete one day？ sounds weird）nor ‘’ completing companies‘’ （because one day works as a adverb，it can not modify a noun). So，in my view ，‘’one day‘’ modifies may be the partners the next.
for example, one day, Tom will become a successful businessman.

Please help me solve this problem !

[RonPurewal]

the point of the sentence is that companies that compete one day... might be partners the next day.
DO NOT LOOK AT THE CHOICES until you've figured out this meaning.

（compete one day？ sounds weird）

^^ if you did not grow up with the english language, you will have no idea what "sounds weird" and what doesn't.
furthermore, this is a test of written language, so "sounds" are irrelevant anyway.

so, this is just random guessing.

[RonPurewal]

in my view ，‘’one day‘’ modifies may be the partners the next.

^^ how could "one day" modify something that happens THE NEXT day?

that's like trying to say "Today, I'll go to the store tomorrow."

[arpit.garg]

In choice 'B', is the "industries that are more established", an incomplete comparison? Do we need industries that are more established than X?

[RonPurewal]

In choice 'B', is the "industries that are more established", an incomplete comparison? Do we need industries that are more established than X?

^^ no, that's a non-issue. if that were a problem, then ALL of the choices would have the same problem ("more established industries" isn't phrased any more specifically).