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* genmai-cha

by selva.e Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:31 am

A special Japanese green tea called genmai-cha contains brown rice and is considered as a delicacy fit for a gourmet by most Japanese, though it is virtually unavailable outside Yokohama.
(A) A special Japanese green tea called genmai-cha contains brown rice and is considered as a delicacy fit for a gourmet by most Japanese, though it is virtually unavailable outside Yokohama.
(B) Considered to be a delicacy fit for a gourmet by most Japanese, genmai-cha is a special green tea that contains brown rice, virtually unavailable outside Yokohama.
(C) A special Japanese green tea called genmai-cha contains brown rice and is considered a gourmet delicacy by most Japanese, though it is virtually unavailable outside Yokohama.
(D) Most Japanese consider genmai-cha, a special green tea which contains brown rice, as a delicacy virtually unavailable outside Yokohama.
(E) Though virtually unavailable outside Yokohama, most Japanese consider genmai-cha, a special green tea that contains brown rice, a gourmet delicacy
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Re: genmai-cha

by mangipudi Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:59 pm

(A) A special Japanese green tea called genmai-cha contains brown rice and is considered as a delicacy fit for a gourmet by most Japanese, though it is virtually unavailable outside Yokohama.
> considered as is not correct

(B) Considered to be a delicacy fit for a gourmet by most Japanese, genmai-cha is a special green tea that contains brown rice, virtually unavailable outside Yokohama.

virtually unavailable outside Yokohama modifies brown rice.

(C) A special Japanese green tea called genmai-cha contains brown rice and is considered a gourmet delicacy by most Japanese, though it is virtually unavailable outside Yokohama.
> correct .
> though it is virtually unavailable : This is a subordinate clause and 'it' refers to the subject of the main clause ( A special Japanese green tea )


(D) Most Japanese consider genmai-cha, a special green tea which contains brown rice, as a delicacy virtually unavailable outside Yokohama.

> considered as is not correct

(E) Though virtually unavailable outside Yokohama, most Japanese consider genmai-cha, a special green tea that contains brown rice, a gourmet delicacy

Though virtually unavailable outside Yokohama modifies Japanese
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Re: genmai-cha

by Ben Ku Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:37 pm

Thanks Mangipudi, your response looks correct.

Selva.e, was there a specific question you had about this sentence? Where did you get stuck? Were you able to eliminate any answers?
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Re: genmai-cha

by hiren.dhanak Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:24 am

(C) A special Japanese green tea called genmai-cha contains brown rice and is considered a gourmet delicacy by most Japanese, though it is virtually unavailable outside Yokohama.
> correct .
> though it is virtually unavailable : This is a subordinate clause and 'it' refers to the subject of the main clause ( A special Japanese green tea )

Pls help me for my query, I discarded the option C , because i felt the closest noun to what IT refers is japanse.

Can you just elaborate on usage of IT.

1) When is the usage of IT acceptable ? is it true that if IT clause is a subordinate clause it can refer to the noun of the main clause ?

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Re: genmai-cha

by tim Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:29 am

Japanese is a plural noun. You have to at least give the sentence a fighting chance to be correct. Don’t just find the closest random word and decide it doesn’t fit the pronoun. "It" is a singular pronoun, so you are ONLY allowed to search for an antecedent among the singular nouns of the sentence. Go through each one if necessary, and ONLY get rid of the sentence for pronoun problems if NONE of those nouns will work..
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Re: genmai-cha

by abemartin87 Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:41 pm

mangipudi's analysis is correct but I also want to point some other potential problems.

A special Japanese green tea called genmai-cha contains brown rice and is considered as a delicacy fit for a gourmet by most Japanese, though it is virtually unavailable outside Yokohama.

(A) A special Japanese green tea called genmai-cha contains brown rice and is considered as a delicacy fit for a gourmet by most Japanese, though it is virtually unavailable outside Yokohama.

"considered as" is unidiomatic

(B) Considered to be a delicacy fit for a gourmet by most Japanese, genmai-cha is a special green tea that contains brown rice, virtually unavailable outside Yokohama.

"considered to be" is unidiomatic.
"virtually unavailable outside Yokohama" is incorrectly modifying "brown rise"


(C) A special Japanese green tea called genmai-cha contains brown rice and is considered a gourmet delicacy by most Japanese, though it is virtually unavailable outside Yokohama.
(D) Most Japanese consider genmai-cha, a special green tea which contains brown rice, as a delicacy virtually unavailable outside Yokohama.

"consider as" is unidiomatic.
"Most Japanese consider genmai-cha delicacy virtually unavailable outside Yokohama"? The Japanese don't consider "cha" unavialable, that is simply a mere fact; instead, they consider they "cha" a gourmet delicacy.


(E) Though virtually unavailable outside Yokohama, most Japanese consider genmai-cha, a special green tea that contains brown rice, a gourmet delicacy

"Though virtually unavailable outside Yokohama" is incorrectly modifying Japanesse and not "cha"
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Re: genmai-cha

by RonPurewal Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:37 am

abe, that mostly looks good.

the only point to which i'd take exception is your classification of "considered to be" as unidiomatic. there is no evidence that gmac considers that construction unidiomatic -- although it is clearly more wordy/unnecessarily bulky than just "considered".

otherwise, good stuff
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Re: genmai-cha

by namnam123 Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:48 am

all is underlined questions are hard. word by word comparison dose not help us find error. FIND ERRORS IN EACH ANSWER CHOICE OR FIND MEANING DIFFERENCE TO FIND ERRORS.
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Re: genmai-cha

by tim Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:32 pm

i'm not entirely sure i agree with this generalization..
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Re: genmai-cha

by sid090188 Thu May 09, 2013 3:33 am

I am kind of confused between A and C for the usage of "delicacy fit for a gourmet' vs 'gourmet delicacy'.Gourmet is a connoisseur of food so it should be fit for a gourmet.Right.Gourment delicacy looks like there is a type of delicacy called gourment delicacy.

Kindly advise when can once convert phrase into noun adjective.Here for is the better option so how can gourmet delicacy be appropriate.
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Re: genmai-cha

by jlucero Thu May 09, 2013 4:12 pm

sid090188 Wrote:I am kind of confused between A and C for the usage of "delicacy fit for a gourmet' vs 'gourmet delicacy'.Gourmet is a connoisseur of food so it should be fit for a gourmet.Right.Gourment delicacy looks like there is a type of delicacy called gourment delicacy.

Kindly advise when can once convert phrase into noun adjective.Here for is the better option so how can gourmet delicacy be appropriate.


There is no rule here as you are studying a preference in writing style rather than a grammatical principle. The GMAT would almost never even mention the difference in these two phrases, so don't weigh your mind down studying the difference between two phrases that mean pretty much the same thing.
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Re: genmai-cha

by sid090188 Fri May 10, 2013 1:28 am

Yes, but in the manhattan SC guide it has been mentioned that the concision Noun adjective can be used only when the translation is of like 'A wall of stone' and 'stone wall'

But here the usage is 'for' delicacy for gourment so can one convert this into gourmet delicacy.Wouldn't this violate the above rule.
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Re: genmai-cha

by RonPurewal Mon May 13, 2013 7:22 am

I strongly doubt that this is an official problem.

If this problem is actually from the official GMATPrep software, please post a screenshot of the problem from that source. Otherwise, we'll have to delete the thread in the next week or so.

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Re: * genmai-cha

by Everything OR Nothing Sun Jun 02, 2013 5:49 am

Dear Ron,You are just amazing..You are the best teacher of SC in the world :)
In choice C above ,how can we be so sure that "it", in the modifying clause refers to green tea not Brown rice ???!!
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Re: * genmai-cha

by tim Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:57 am

Sorry, at this point flattery won't convince Ron to comment further on this question. We need to see a screenshot. :)
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