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Challenge Problem - 20.5.2013 - The octagon nightmare

by rohan.dd.bhatia Mon May 20, 2013 5:45 pm

Is it wrong to assume that a regular Octagon can ALWAYS be divided into 7 square, what is wrong with my approach below?

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The area of square ABCD = Area of 4 colored triangles + area of smaller square.
Area of 1 colored triangle = (1/root(2) * 2/root(2))/2 =1/2
Total of 4 such triangles = 2
Area of central square = (1/root(2))^2 = 1/2
Total Area = 2+1/2 = 5/2
(Same thing -- if we use AFB to calculate one side of square)
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Re: Challenge Problem - 20.5.2013 - The octagon nightmare

by RonPurewal Tue May 21, 2013 6:12 am

Your octagon isn't regular; the horizontal and vertical sides are shorter than the diagonal ones.

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Re: Challenge Problem - 20.5.2013 - The octagon nightmare

by rohan.dd.bhatia Tue May 21, 2013 7:38 am

Oops missed that.
Okay got it. Thanks Ron
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Re: Challenge Problem - 20.5.2013 - The octagon nightmare

by jlucero Thu May 23, 2013 4:31 pm

That's a good thought though. This week's Challenge Problem is definitely a tricky one.
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Re: Challenge Problem - 20.5.2013 - The octagon nightmare

by rohan.dd.bhatia Sun May 26, 2013 3:29 am

Yes, It took some time to notice the pattern, but I got the answer using above approach - I just had to change the octagon into a regular one
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Re: Challenge Problem - 20.5.2013 - The octagon nightmare

by tim Wed May 29, 2013 1:25 pm

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Re: Challenge Problem - 20.5.2013 - The octagon nightmare

by rohan.dd.bhatia Thu May 30, 2013 4:01 pm

Thanks Tim,
After following RONS suggestion here is my corrected solution --

The area of square ABCD = Area of 4 colored triangles + area of smaller square(RED) -- Please note the side are now 1 - becuase octagon is regular
Area of 1 colored triangle = ((1+1/root(2)) * 1/root(2))/2 =
(root(2) +1) /4
Total of 4 such triangles = root(2)+1
Area of central square = 1*1 = 1
Total Area = 1+1+root(2) = 2+root(2)
(Same thing -- if we use AFB to calculate one side of square)
AB^2 = (1/root(2) + 1)^2 +( 1/(root(2))^2
AB^2 = 2+root(2)
Area = AB^2 = 2+root(2)

Let me know if this is okay..
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Re: Challenge Problem - 20.5.2013 - The octagon nightmare

by RonPurewal Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:16 pm

rohan.dd.bhatia Wrote:Thanks Tim,
After following RONS suggestion here is my corrected solution --

The area of square ABCD = Area of 4 colored triangles + area of smaller square(RED) -- Please note the side are now 1 - becuase octagon is regular
Area of 1 colored triangle = ((1+1/root(2)) * 1/root(2))/2 =
(root(2) +1) /4
Total of 4 such triangles = root(2)+1
Area of central square = 1*1 = 1
Total Area = 1+1+root(2) = 2+root(2)
(Same thing -- if we use AFB to calculate one side of square)
AB^2 = (1/root(2) + 1)^2 +( 1/(root(2))^2
AB^2 = 2+root(2)
Area = AB^2 = 2+root(2)

Let me know if this is okay..


that looks legitimate.