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Billie Holiday's Singing

by sachin.iet Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:26 am

Deliberately imitating the technique of Louis Armstrong, jazz singer Billie Holiday’s
approach to singing was to use her voice like an instrument, in that she ranged
freely over the beat, flattened
out the melodic contours of tunes, and, in effect,
recomposed songs to suit her range, style, and artistic sensibilities.
A. Billie Holiday’s approach to singing was to use her voice like an instrument,
in that she ranged freely over the beat, flattened.
B. Billie Holiday’s approach to singing was to use her voice in a similar way
to how other musicians play instruments, in ranging freely over the beat,
flattening.
C. Billie Holiday approached singing by using her voice like other musicians
played instruments, ranging freely over the beat, flattening.
D. Billie Holiday used her voice in the same way that other musicians use their
instruments, in that she ranged freely over the beat, flattening.
E. Billie Holiday approached singing by using her voice like other musicians
Instruments, ranging freely over the beat, flattening.

Struck b/w D and E.
Is the use of Phrase "Approached Singing" ,correct.
Is comparison in E correct.
OA is D
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Re: Billie Holiday's Singing

by rohit21384 Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:34 am

sachin.iet Wrote:Deliberately imitating the technique of Louis Armstrong, jazz singer Billie Holiday’s
approach to singing was to use her voice like an instrument, in that she ranged
freely over the beat, flattened
out the melodic contours of tunes, and, in effect,
recomposed songs to suit her range, style, and artistic sensibilities.
A. Billie Holiday’s approach to singing was to use her voice like an instrument,
in that she ranged freely over the beat, flattened.
B. Billie Holiday’s approach to singing was to use her voice in a similar way
to how other musicians play instruments, in ranging freely over the beat,
flattening.
C. Billie Holiday approached singing by using her voice like other musicians
played instruments, ranging freely over the beat, flattening.
D. Billie Holiday used her voice in the same way that other musicians use their
instruments, in that she ranged freely over the beat, flattening.
E. Billie Holiday approached singing by using her voice like other musicians
Instruments, ranging freely over the beat, flattening.

Struck b/w D and E.
Is the use of Phrase "Approached Singing" ,correct.
Is comparison in E correct.
OA is D


Option D
Correct comparison
Recomposed and ranged are parallel

Billie Holiday used her voice in the same way that other musicians use their
instruments, in that she ranged freely over the beat, flattening.out the melodic contours of tunes, and, in effect, recomposed songs to suit her range, style, and artistic sensibilities.


Option E (Two problem)

1) her voice compared with other musicians Instruments
2) "ranging" not parallel to recomposed
Billie Holiday approached singing by using her voice like other musicians
Instruments, ranging freely over the beat, flattening.out the melodic contours of tunes, and, in effect, recomposed songs to suit her range, style, and artistic sensibilities.
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Re: Billie Holiday's Singing

by esledge Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:54 pm

Nice explanation, Rohit. Thanks.
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Re: Billie Holiday's Singing

by tuftsv Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:48 am

hello,

can someone pls explain how come Ans D is not a run-on? Because I think it has only one conjunction "and," or do I miss anything??
thanks.
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Re: Billie Holiday's Singing

by RonPurewal Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:12 am

tuftsv Wrote:hello,

can someone pls explain how come Ans D is not a run-on? Because I think it has only one conjunction "and," or do I miss anything??
thanks.


not a run-on.

"in that" is a subordinating conjunction that connects two independent clauses (i.e., two complete sentences). so, the structure of any sentence correctly using "in that" is:
(complete sentence) IN THAT (complete sentence)

the part that comes before "in that" is obviously a complete sentence, so let's just look at the part that comes after it.
i'll adopt the color scheme used by the above poster:
she ranged freely over the beat, flattening.out the melodic contours of tunes, and, in effect, recomposed songs to suit her range, style, and artistic sensibilities.


the green part is a modifier, so you basically just have "she ranged ... and recomposed", which is a legitimate complete sentence.

there you go.
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Re: Billie Holiday's Singing

by CHANDEEP_SODHI Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:03 am

Hi Ron , don't you think the comparison in E is correct although i agree that there is parallelism error .
As mention earlier
1) her voice compared with other musicians Instruments
i don't think that is an issue . Am i correct here ?
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Re: Billie Holiday's Singing

by puneet124 Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:44 pm

RonPurewal Wrote:

"in that" is a subordinating conjunction that connects two independent clauses (i.e., two complete sentences). so, the structure of any sentence correctly using "in that" is:
(complete sentence) IN THAT (complete sentence)

there you go.


Dear Ron
I am a non native speaker and i often struggle with the literal meaning of "in that"
i want your help in understanding the literal meaning of "in that"

does "In that" means "in the way" or "in a way"?

please help me
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Re: Billie Holiday's Singing

by RonPurewal Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:07 pm

CHANDEEP_SODHI Wrote:Hi Ron , don't you think the comparison in E is correct although i agree that there is parallelism error .
As mention earlier
1) her voice compared with other musicians Instruments
i don't think that is an issue . Am i correct here ?


if you said "she used her voice like other musicians' instruments", then the implication is that she herself used both (a) her voice and (b) other musicians' instruments.
the sentence is clearly not meant to imply that billie holiday used instruments belonging to other musicians, so this construction is incorrect.
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Re: Billie Holiday's Singing

by RonPurewal Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:10 pm

puneet124 Wrote:Dear Ron
I am a non native speaker and i often struggle with the literal meaning of "in that"
i want your help in understanding the literal meaning of "in that"


this construction is often used in contrast to "because", so here is an illustration.

X is Z because Y --> this must actually mean that there is a literal cause-and-effect relationship. in other words, this sentence claims that "Y" is actually the reason why "X" is "Z".

X is Z in that Y --> this is a qualifier; it implies that "Y" is the only certain way in which X is Z.

two examples:

My brother and I are alike in that we both have a quirky sense of humor
--> CORRECT
this sentence means that my brother and i share the same quirky sense of humor, but that we may (or may not) differ in any other aspect of our personalities.

My brother and I are alike because we both have a quirky sense of humor
--> UNREASONABLE MEANING
this sentence implies that our similar senses of humor have CAUSED our personalities to become alike. that's nonsense.
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Re: Billie Holiday's Singing

by vinny4nyc Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:14 am

sachin.iet Wrote:Deliberately imitating the technique of Louis Armstrong, jazz singer Billie Holiday’s
approach to singing was to use her voice like an instrument, in that she ranged
freely over the beat, flattened
out the melodic contours of tunes, and, in effect,
recomposed songs to suit her range, style, and artistic sensibilities.
A. Billie Holiday’s approach to singing was to use her voice like an instrument,
in that she ranged freely over the beat, flattened.
B. Billie Holiday’s approach to singing was to use her voice in a similar way
to how other musicians play instruments, in ranging freely over the beat,
flattening.
C. Billie Holiday approached singing by using her voice like other musicians
played instruments, ranging freely over the beat, flattening.
D. Billie Holiday used her voice in the same way that other musicians use their
instruments, in that she ranged freely over the beat, flattening.
E. Billie Holiday approached singing by using her voice like other musicians
Instruments, ranging freely over the beat, flattening.



Hi
Somehow I eliminated both D and E.
The first part says "the technique of Louis Armstrong",to me what this would mean is that on the other side of the comma there has to be something parallel to Technique..not Armstrong. The possesive Holiday's approach made more sense than Holiday by itself.

Where did I go wrong..Wrong parallelism,I guess, but Why ?
EDIT: I chose B as an answer.
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Re: Billie Holiday's Singing

by tim Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:32 pm

it looks like you're trying to make something parallel that doesn't need to be parallel at all. nothing in the first part of the sentence (up to the comma) needs to be parallel to anything else..
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Re: Billie Holiday's Singing

by vinny4nyc Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:50 am

tim Wrote:it looks like you're trying to make something parallel that doesn't need to be parallel at all. nothing in the first part of the sentence (up to the comma) needs to be parallel to anything else..



Thanks Tim...
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Re: Billie Holiday's Singing

by tim Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:18 am

:)
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Re: Billie Holiday's Singing

by vijay19839 Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:54 am

One of the users commented that 'Ranging' is not parallel to 'recomposed'. I believe any adjective modifier (ING/ED Modifier) can be parallel if they are adjective modifier. I think in the option E, we have all the right adjective modifiers and hence that is not an issue.

Can u confirm my understanding that 'ING Modifier' here is also correct in E as it is applying to the subject 'Bille Holiday' and also the ING is a simultaneous and subordinate action to 'singing'.

Is there any other way to eliminate Option 'E'?

rohit21384 Wrote:Option E (Two problem)

1) her voice compared with other musicians Instruments
2) "ranging" not parallel to recomposed
Billie Holiday approached singing by using her voice like other musicians
Instruments, ranging freely over the beat, flattening.out the melodic contours of tunes, and, in effect, recomposed songs to suit her range, style, and artistic sensibilities.
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Re: Billie Holiday's Singing

by nowwithgmat Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:43 pm

RonPurewal Wrote:
tuftsv Wrote:hello,

can someone pls explain how come Ans D is not a run-on? Because I think it has only one conjunction "and," or do I miss anything??
thanks.


not a run-on.

"in that" is a subordinating conjunction that connects two independent clauses (i.e., two complete sentences). so, the structure of any sentence correctly using "in that" is:
(complete sentence) IN THAT (complete sentence)

the part that comes before "in that" is obviously a complete sentence, so let's just look at the part that comes after it.
i'll adopt the color scheme used by the above poster:
she ranged freely over the beat, flattening.out the melodic contours of tunes, and, in effect, recomposed songs to suit her range, style, and artistic sensibilities.


the green part is a modifier, so you basically just have "she ranged ... and recomposed", which is a legitimate complete sentence.

there you go.



hello instructor

i know little about use of comma, but what i know that is
1. (subordinate conjunction) + subordinate clause (comma) independent clause
2. independent clause (without comma)(subordinate conjunction)+
subordinate clause
3.independent clause (semi colon or coordinating conjunction ) independent clause

in this problem option D. (correct answer )
contain

(complete sentence) IN THAT (complete sentence).

and a ,(comma) placed before subordinate conjunction.
so my question it is likely to use-

(complete sentence) comma+subordinate conjunction (complete sentence).

all other official question. or it may vary on context.???

thnax in advance