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As shown in the figure above, a thin conveyor belt

by DennaMueller Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:06 pm

As shown in the figure above, a thin conveyor belt 15 feet long is drawn tightly around two circular wheels each 1 foot in diameter. What is the distance, in feet, between the centers of the two wheels. Image

I don't understand how to set up this problem. Every approach I take doesn't really answer the question. I estimated the answer to be 5.5, which leads me to the correct answer, but how do I solve it mathematically?
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Re: As shown in the figure above, a thin conveyor belt

by mxs2009 Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:03 am

To set up the problem, the key takeaway is that 15ft is the entire length of the oval around the two circular wheels.

Step 1: bisect each of the circles with a vertical diameter running through the center. The half circles at the ends are the portion of the belt wrapped around the circular wheels.

Step 2: figure out the circumference of the two wheels.
C = 2*pi*r = 2*pi*(1/2) = pi

Step 3: add the conveyor belt lengths of the left and right circles together (these are the half circles)
(1/2)*pi + (1/2)*pi = pi

Step 4: Thus, 15-pi is equal to the length of the two parallel lines between each of the two centers.

Step 5: Divide by two to get the distance between the centers of the two wheels
15-pi
2
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Re: As shown in the figure above, a thin conveyor belt

by RonPurewal Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:55 pm

mxs2009's solution is extremely well executed.

like so many other geometry problems, this one is also a problem on which ESTIMATION can go a long long long way.

the whole conveyor belt is 15 feet long. even if you just folded it in half, with no circular parts, each half would only be 7.5 feet long. therefore, it's clear that the desired distance is less than 7.5 feet.

in any case, if you "guess-timate" the distance, you should come up with something in the range of 4 to 6 or so.

(c) and (d) are absurd; both of them are greater than 7.5 feet. (you can figure this out quickly with the primitive assumption that pi is about 3)

(b) is really really small. 5/4 times 3 is only about 3.75.

(a) and (e) are both approximately 6 (using the same estimate that pi is about 3).
however, if you have to guess between these two, you should be loath to pick (e), since
* its form is SO DIFFERENT from that of the other four answers, and
* there is nothing in it that is at all related to the "15" (a quantity that clearly matters).

that leaves (a).

estimation for the win.
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Re: As shown in the figure above, a thin conveyor belt

by BernardK777 Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:09 pm

Ron,

I don't understand how you suggest folding the figure in half to realize that the desired distance is less than 7.5 feet? How exactly are you suggesting to fold the figure? Thanks.
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Re: As shown in the figure above, a thin conveyor belt

by tim Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:07 am

Please note that the forum rules indicate you need to include the full text of the problem (which in this case apparently includes an image) before we can discuss it, so that other students can benefit from the discussion as well.
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Re: As shown in the figure above, a thin conveyor belt

by BernardK777 Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:29 am

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As shown in the figure above, a thin conveyor belt 15 feet long is drawn tightly around two circular wheels each 1 foot in diameter. What is the distance, in feet, between the centers of the two wheels.

A) (15- pi ) / 2

B) 5pi / 4

C) 15 - 2pi

D) 15 - pi

E) 2pi
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Re: As shown in the figure above, a thin conveyor belt

by RonPurewal Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:02 am

The entire belt is 15 feet. So, half the belt is 7.5 feet.

The distance between the outer ends of the circles is thus less than 7.5 feet. (It's a straight-line distance, whereas the half-belt--which goes between the same two points--is curved.)

The distance between the centers is this previously mentioned straight-line distance, minus 2 radii.
2 radii = 1 foot, so the distance between the centers actually must be less than 6.5 feet.
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Re: As shown in the figure above, a thin conveyor belt

by BernardK777 Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:39 am

Thank you Ron!
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Re: As shown in the figure above, a thin conveyor belt

by tim Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:02 pm

:)
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Re: As shown in the figure above, a thin conveyor belt

by RonPurewal Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:13 pm

By the way-- If you didn't realize these things, then perhaps you didn't draw the diagram on your own paper.

Always reproduce diagrams on your own notepad. Then draw stuff on them. It will help.