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as and like, still hard.

by thanghnvn Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:52 am

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Officials in Atlanta's public schools, //as do //many districts across the United States, have eliminated recess in the elementary grades, calling it a waste of time that would be better spent on academics.

(A) as do
(B) as with
(C) similar to
(D) like those in
(E) as they have in

why A is wrong? I think when I ask this you know the oa already.

second question, what is rule for verb which is illipsised. ?
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Re: as and like, still hard.

by nileshdalvimumbai Sun May 06, 2012 1:39 am

why A is wrong?


Firstly, there is no action verb to which the substitute "do" would have mapped. Also, we are comparing officials to other officials and these are noun/noun phrases so "like" is preferred over "as".

second question, what is rule for verb which is illipsised. ?


I dont think I understand the question correctly but there must be a verb in first place that can be ellipsed. Maybe experts can help with this query or maybe you can reframe it.
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Re: as and like, still hard.

by thanghnvn Sun May 06, 2012 3:39 am

Ron, Manhantan expert, pls, comment on my following explanation.

in B, "as with" is not grammatical.

the comparision in A and C are correct but the meaning in A and C is not the intended meanning.

"they" in E refers to " Atlantic's school" not only to "school" and illogic

D is left.

the problem with me is that I see some choice is considered wrong because it is considered not conveying intended meaning while it is grammatical and logic. How can I find out that kind of incorrect choice?
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Re: as and like, still hard.

by RonPurewal Wed May 16, 2012 11:04 am

thanghnvn, just a note: because of the increased traffic on the forum, we have started to prioritize posts from paying clients of the company (i.e., from posters who have bought our products and/or signed up for our courses).
for non-paying users of the forum, we are going to start answering fewer posts and/or taking longer to answer them, at least until the volume of posts drops back down a little bit.

thanghnvn Wrote:from gmatprep

why A is wrong?


"as do ... districts" sets up a comparison between those districts and something else.
that's a problem here, because the intended comparison must involve the officials in the atlanta schools (not underlined -- you can't change this part of the comparison). therefore, the other half of the comparison can't be the other districts themselves; it has to be the officials of those districts.
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Re: as and like, still hard.

by 705wjl Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:00 am

RonPurewal Wrote:thanghnvn, just a note: because of the increased traffic on the forum, we have started to prioritize posts from paying clients of the company (i.e., from posters who have bought our products and/or signed up for our courses).
for non-paying users of the forum, we are going to start answering fewer posts and/or taking longer to answer them, at least until the volume of posts drops back down a little bit.

thanghnvn Wrote:from gmatprep

why A is wrong?


"as do ... districts" sets up a comparison between those districts and something else.
that's a problem here, because the intended comparison must involve the officials in the atlanta schools (not underlined -- you can't change this part of the comparison). therefore, the other half of the comparison can't be the other districts themselves; it has to be the officials of those districts.

Although I am only a guest paying no fees, I will really appreciate it if you can reply to me. Don't discriminate the poor us. :)Here is my problem, why is "as with" always wrong? And I think that the simpler the words following "like", the better.
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Re: as and like, still hard.

by jlucero Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:24 pm

As is a word that is used to compare clauses (noun+verb). With is a prepositional that begins a prepositional phrase, which can never include a verb. So you can't compare prepositional phrases using "as". You can use as to compare a prepositional phrase as long as it still has a verb in it:

Watching football with friends is great as it is with strangers.
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