Alexander Pope

[gnc88]

I need some explanation on the answer choices for this Question.



As can be seen from the pic, i chose C due to the structure 'pronounced it as'.

Please do shed some light.

[RonPurewal]

As can be seen from the pic, i chose C due to the structure 'pronounced it as'.

Please do shed some light.

you can't have the "it" here, because the relative pronoun "that" already serves that function.

analogy:
here's the pizza. i picked it up on my way home. --> correct
here's the pizza that i picked up on my way home. --> correct
here's the pizza that i picked it up on my way home. --> wrong

choice (c) has the same problem, though admittedly with a lot more stuff in the way.

choice (b) works like the second sentence above.

[Guest]

'A' is wrong because 'a work that took him' is the correct expression.
'It as' is redundant in 'C' and 'D'.
Present perfect 'had taken' is the incorrect verb tense in 'E'.
Omission of 'that' before 'literary critic' in 'E' violates parallelism. 'It' is redundant.
'Pronounced the greates translation' in 'B' is idiomatically correct
Hence 'B'.

[JonathanSchneider]

nice work!

[kunalv3]

Instructors need help !

1) If we remove "it as" from answer choice "C" will the sentence be correct.

In answer choice "C", "a work that had taken" implies an earlier action and "pronounced" refers to a later action...hence,can we use the past perfect tense?

2) AC "D" starts with....In 1713,Alexander Pope began translating the iliad....

is anything wrong with the opening sentence? and is "it as" the only error in this sentence.

Thanks in advance

Kunal

[RonPurewal]

1) If we remove "it as" from answer choice "C" will the sentence be correct.

In answer choice "C", "a work that had taken" implies an earlier action and "pronounced" refers to a later action...hence,can we use the past perfect tense?

i believe that you are correct: choice (c) is ok if you remove "it as".
[editor:
on further consideration, this is actually incorrect; the past perfect contradicts the use of the normal past tense "began" at the start of the sentence -- it suggests that pope had finished the translation before he even started it!
thanks to the poster below for pointing this out]

2) AC "D" starts with....In 1713,Alexander Pope began translating the iliad....

is anything wrong with the opening sentence? and is "it as" the only error in this sentence.

i don't think "began translating" is properly idiomatic; it should be "began TO translate".

[SEPY]

Post subject: Re: Alexander Pope
kunalv3 wrote:
1) If we remove "it as" from answer choice "C" will the sentence be correct.

In answer choice "C", "a work that had taken" implies an earlier action and "pronounced" refers to a later action...hence,can we use the past perfect tense?


Ron : i believe that you are correct: choice (c) is 100% ok if you remove "it as".

I have a doubt,i dont think usage of past perfect tense is correct in choice c,it has to be past tense.After removing"it has" also,sentence is wrong.Thoughts??

[RonPurewal]

I have a doubt,i dont think usage of past perfect tense is correct in choice c,it has to be past tense.After removing"it has" also,sentence is wrong.Thoughts??

actually, you are correct; i've made the appropriate edits to my post above. thanks for the heads-up.

the past perfect contradicts the use of the normal past tense "began" at the start of the sentence -- it suggests that pope had finished the translation before he even started it!

thanks for pointing this out.
ironically, i'd missed it the first time because i was going quickly through the posts and didn't bother to look at the non-underlined part.
always look at the non-underlined part when considering meaning! |:
since verb tense is purely an issue of meaning (not grammar), this precaution is especially important in determining verb tense.

[ericyuan0811]

'A' is wrong because 'a work that took him' is the correct expression.
'It as' is redundant in 'C' and 'D'.
Present perfect 'had taken' is the incorrect verb tense in 'E'.
Omission of 'that' before 'literary critic' in 'E' violates parallelism. 'It' is redundant.
'Pronounced the greates translation' in 'B' is idiomatically correct
Hence 'B'.

Hi instructors

can we omit the second "that"?
i.e. a work that...and (that) literary...

as I know, in the parallel structure" that...and that...",we can omit the second that.

Is my understanding correct? thank you!

[RonPurewal]

Hi instructors

hi!

can we omit the second "that"?

no, not in this instance, because these two "that"s don't serve the same grammatical function.
the first "that" is the subject of a verb (took), but the second "that" is the object of a verb (pronounced). so, basically, even though they are both spelled the same, these two instances of "that" are entirely different words.

here's a simpler sentence with the same thing going on:
Here's a card that is worth $100 and that you should use if an emergency arises.
first "that" = subject of "is"
second "that" = object of "use"
can't omit.

as opposed to:
Here's a card that is worth $100 and (that) can be used in an emergency.
here, both instances of "that" are subjects -- of "is" and "can", respectively -- so you can omit the second one.

remember, though, that you should stick with what's in the answer choices when you study these things!
these sentences are already complicated enough; the last thing you really want to do here is introduce more complications, of the sort that almost certainly won't be tested on the exam.

[ericyuan0811]

I got it!
thank you, Ron!!

[RonPurewal]

I got it!
thank you, Ron!!

sweet.