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A satellite is composed of 30 modular units, each of which

by shaw.s.li Sat May 14, 2011 2:51 am

A satellite is composed of 30 modular units, each of which is equipped with a set of sensors, some of which have been upgraded. Each unit contains the same number of non-upgraded sensors. If the number of non-upgraded sensors on one unit is 1/5 the total number of upgraded sensors on the entire satellite, what fraction of the sensors on the satellite have been upgraded?

a) 5/6
b) 1/5
c) 1/6
d) 1/7
e) 1/24

I think I understand the question because I got the right answer of 1/7, but I solved it differently than how MGMAT solved it. Would someone check to make sure my logic works?

Each unit had some upgraded and non-upgraded sensors. I used X to denote the number of non-upgraded sensors per unit.
Given that there is 30 units, total non-upgraded sensors is 30X.

So, the statement "If the number of non-upgraded sensors on one unit is 1/5 the total number of upgraded sensors on the entire satellite" is translated to

X=1/5(Total Sensors - 30X)

and "what fraction of the sensors on the satellite have been upgraded?" is translated to

(Total Sensors - 30X)/Total Sensors.

I solve for the first equation for Total Sensors or T

X=1/5(T - 30X)
X=1/5T-6X
35X=T

With T, I plug into second equation

(35X-30X)/35X = 1/7.

Is this an appropriate logic? I used a table to help me organize this on my paper, but I don't know how to make a table here.
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Re: A satellite is composed of 30 modular units, each of which

by jnelson0612 Sat May 14, 2011 10:01 pm

shaw, well done! I think you did a terrific job and thank you for providing a wonderful resource for this problem in your detailed explanation. Other students will be grateful. :-)
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Re: A satellite is composed of 30 modular units, each of which

by oschetrit Sun May 22, 2011 7:27 pm

thanks! much more helpful than the description on the test. Got this one wrong, but guessed pretty quickly since I knew I was short on time at the point I got to it... key part was to understand that you're going for
X=1/5(total-30X)

so that you can define

(Total-X)/Total
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Re: A satellite is composed of 30 modular units, each of which

by jnelson0612 Sun May 22, 2011 9:50 pm

:-)
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Re: A satellite is composed of 30 modular units, each of which

by touchdownbuckeyes Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:08 pm

One more way. Please let me know if there's a mistake with this.

Let number of non-upgraded sensors in a unit = N
Let number of upgraded sensors in a unit = U

Total number of non-upgraded sensors = 30N and total number of upgraded sensors = 30U and therefore total number of sensors = 30(N+U)

Since number of non-upgraded sensors in a unit is 1/5th of total number of upgraded sensors, we get

5N = 30U or N = 6U.

Fraction of upgraded sensors = 30U/ 30(N+U)

= U/(N+U) = U/7U = 1/7
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Re: A satellite is composed of 30 modular units, each of which

by JohnHarris Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:39 am

touchdownbuckeyes Wrote:One more way. Please let me know if there's a mistake with this. ...


You can not assume that the number of upgraded sensors (U in your discussion) is the same for each unit. You need to replace the 30 U with the actual number of upgraded sensors, call that S [the sum of the upgraded sensors over all units]. Things will work out the same from there though:
Total = T = 30 N + S
N = (1/5) S or S = 5 N

Fraction = S / T = 5 N / (30 N + 5 N) = 1 / 7

Note that shaw.s.li used Total Sensors rather than assuming something about the number of upgraded sensors (and thus Total Sensors) in each unit.
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Re: A satellite is composed of 30 modular units, each of which

by mithunsam Sat Sep 03, 2011 3:03 pm

It can be done in fewer steps.

Once you assume that the number of upgradable sensors in 1 unit is x, we know that the total number of upgradable sensors is 30x.

Now the number of non upgraded sensors in 1 unit = 30x * 1/5 = 6x. Therefore, there are 7x sensors in 1 unit (x + 6x).

Now, fraction of up-gradable sensors in 1 unit = x/(7x)=1/7
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Re: A satellite is composed of 30 modular units, each of which

by jnelson0612 Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:23 pm

Wow! Good stuff on this thread--thanks all!
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Re: A satellite is composed of 30 modular units, each of which

by adkhan Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:15 pm

JohnHarris Wrote:
touchdownbuckeyes Wrote:One more way. Please let me know if there's a mistake with this. ...


You can not assume that the number of upgraded sensors (U in your discussion) is the same for each unit. You need to replace the 30 U with the actual number of upgraded sensors, call that S [the sum of the upgraded sensors over all units]. Things will work out the same from there though:
Total = T = 30 N + S
N = (1/5) S or S = 5 N

Fraction = S / T = 5 N / (30 N + 5 N) = 1 / 7

Note that shaw.s.li used Total Sensors rather than assuming something about the number of upgraded sensors (and thus Total Sensors) in each unit.


You do not need to assume, the question stem states that each unit contains same number of non-upgraded units. Thereby, for each unit, (1 minus non-upgraded units = upgraded units per unit).

Otherwise, I agree with the rest of the post, where you are looking for the basic formation pattern of
( Y / X + Y) = > X = (1/5)(30)(Y) or X = 6Y
(Y/ 7y) or 1/7.
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Re: A satellite is composed of 30 modular units, each of which

by tim Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:55 pm

thanks for sharing..
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Re: A satellite is composed of 30 modular units, each of which

by rob_mcclinton Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:03 pm

Video explanation? I am totally lost with this problem.
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Re: A satellite is composed of 30 modular units, each of which

by tim Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:32 pm

if you want more help than what has been provided already, you're going to have to be more specific with your question..
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Re: A satellite is composed of 30 modular units, each of which

by samanthakfranklin Sat Oct 26, 2013 4:26 pm

Hi there,

Going over this problem again as I initially got it wrong in my CAT. I understand the explanation provided in the assessment report but it still feels shaky to me.

When I tried to solve it I couldn't put the unknowns together. Meaning I couldn't translate the problem algebraically: let 30n = total non-upgraded sensors or saying let u = total number of upgraded sensors, therefore let the fraction of total number of upgraded sensors to total sensors be u/(30n+u). I also tried to use smart numbers when I saw I wasn't getting it with algebra and ended up with 5/6 as the wrong answer.

Any advice on how to build up some more practice in this area or tackle this kind of problem? Should I always go straight to solving for unknowns or is it going through more Word Problems (although it was classified as a Fraction problem). In general I seem to just be having a problem with fractions - go figure as I feel I use fractions in every day life.

Thanks in advance!
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Re: A satellite is composed of 30 modular units, each of which

by tim Sun Oct 27, 2013 12:25 am

Your u/(30n+u) was totally correct. The big problem here is you have used n without explicitly defining it, so it likely caused some confusion for you. If you also wrote down what I assume was your definition for n, namely the number of non-upgraded sensors in one unit, then you would immediately have had an opportunity to plug in the other piece of information you did not use, which is that n = u/5. Plugging this in gives you u/(30*u/5+u), or u/(6u+u). The problem here was just that you didn't use all the information you were given.
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Re: A satellite is composed of 30 modular units, each of which

by samanthakfranklin Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:31 am

tim Wrote:Your u/(30n+u) was totally correct. The big problem here is you have used n without explicitly defining it, so it likely caused some confusion for you. If you also wrote down what I assume was your definition for n, namely the number of non-upgraded sensors in one unit, then you would immediately have had an opportunity to plug in the other piece of information you did not use, which is that n = u/5. Plugging this in gives you u/(30*u/5+u), or u/(6u+u). The problem here was just that you didn't use all the information you were given.


Thank you Tim!