Exactly, Seth. If we start by placing the OI chunk, we can put it anywhere (as long as the I is immediately clockwise from the O). Remember, the numbers are irrelevant. I chose positions 1 and 2 arbitrarily. Now, once you place them, you can't move them from there on. In other words, you're fixing t...

Hey guys. Mike has written a full diagram/solution to this game. I'll attach it here.

Best of luck!

dan

Hey guys. Great conversation. I looked at my original setup for this game and then checked your notes. I arrived at the same place you did (all letters defined except for P, and P limited to 90, 91, or 92). As Stacks mentioned, if you can get that far your job on the questions is made much easier! A...

Stacks, thanks for this fantastic solution. This is exactly the sort of work that will lead to improved games performance. Mastering any one game (as you've done here) is more valuable than kind of being familiar with 10 games. Really great work. A small point... in the answer to your bonus question...

Thanks, Stacks!

Any takers?

Attached is a solution to this game that you might find helpful. It uses our Logic Chain system for diagramming the conditional constraints. Just a preface... this game is very complicated for a few reasons: 1) It uses primarily compound conditional statements, which are more difficult to translate ...

These explanations are really great so far. I'll encourage you guys to read each other's work. If you did the game in circle form, check out Stack's approach -- he actually used a linear form and had success. Good to see multiple approaches. I was thrilled to see that someone else does circle-type ...

These explanations are really great so far. I'll encourage you guys to read each other's work. If you did the game in circle form, check out Stack's approach -- he actually used a linear form and had success. Good to see multiple approaches. Stacks has also written some good bonus questions. Exercis...

Thanks for the responses everyone. These look great so far. Give me a chance to look through these. I'll be back...

dan

This is a binary grouping game, but it's a particularly difficult binary grouping game. I haven't seen one quite like this in terms of difficulty.

If you're wanting more work on binary grouping, you might try these games:

E 45, S 3, G 3
E 42, S 1, G 1
E 41, S 2, G 3
E 40, S 2, G 4

dan

I see two ways to set this game up: 1) put 8 open spaces in a circle (I imagine this is similar to the "spoke" method you described) or 2) put the 8 spaces in a straight horizontal line (just as you would for a standard number line game). If you use the second method, you need to be very c...

I agree with Noah. I'll add another consideration. Conditional logic comes up most often on the following question types: 1. Identify a Flaw 2. Application (Match the Reasoning and Match the Flaw) It is not something that is generally helpful on inference questions (the question you asked about is a...

Thanks for this question. I have to be honest... I'm not completely following the logic you've laid out. I'm not sure what you mean by "you can't make inferences from a necessary condition." I think you might be overthinking this one by introducing conditional logic in a formal sense. That...

Just for those of you who are interested in this but maybe are hesitant because you don't know anything about Uncle Fester... I can vouch for him. He's a student in one of our current classes. He's a really sharp guy aiming for a top score. I know he wants to use this group study concept as a way to...

Yes, the third game of preptest B in the Superprep guide is another example. Thanks for that, Rippinradio. We'll be posting our own circle game (with a twist) in a few days.

dan

Sounds good, guys. I think a revisit in a week is a good idea. You'll be surprised, I'm guessing, by how much your brain will "think" about and process this game over the next week even if you're not actively working on it. That's the beauty of repetition, and tackling things over time. Yo...

A few more comments on this game... We've actually had some disagreement in the ranks about how to classify this game. Another one of our instructors sees this as a relative ordering game. Here are his reasons: "the reason i ultimately categorized it as relative is that all the clues are about ...

Hey guys. Here's my solution. A few notes. 1. I numbered the seats for easier reference, but keep in mind that the seat numbers are irrelevant. We're NOT trying to match people to numbers in this game. 2. I would classify this game as a Numbered Ordering/Misc. game. It has numbered ordering properti...

Hey guys. Great debate. Let me write up how I did the game and I'll post it here. I won't look at your solution until I do my own so that I can avoid being biased by your ideas.

I'll be back...

By the way, if you're wanting more practice with these circle games, we've got an interesting circle game waiting in the wings for our fortnightly challenge. Stay tuned. We'll be posting it in a week or two.